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beach
May 11th, 2011, 19:30
Looks like it includes building inspectors....................

BILL NUMBER: AB 801 INTRODUCED
BILL TEXT


INTRODUCED BY Assembly Member Swanson

FEBRUARY 17, 2011

An act to add Section 829.7 to the Penal Code, relating to code
enforcement officers.


LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST


AB 801, as introduced, Swanson. Code enforcement officers:
training.
Existing law defines a code enforcement officer to include
specified public employees whose duties include enforcement of any
statute, rules, regulations, or standards, and who are authorized to
issue citations or file formal complaints. That definition also
includes specified public employees of the Department of Housing and
Community Development who have enforcement authority for health,
safety, and welfare requirements imposed pursuant to specified
provisions of state law relating to housing.
This bill would establish minimum training standards and a
continuing education requirement for code enforcement officers. The
bill would require each of these employees to complete a certified
basic training program within one year of his or her initial
appointment, and to complete intermediate and advanced levels of
certified training, as specified. The bill would require public
entities that employ a code enforcement officer to adopt requirements
for, and require all code enforcement officers to wear, apparel or a
uniform that allows members of the public to recognize the person
wearing the apparel or uniform as a public officer.
By imposing new requirements on local employees and employers, the
bill would impose a state-mandated local program.
The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local
agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the
state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that
reimbursement.
This bill would provide that, if the Commission on State Mandates
determines that the bill contains costs mandated by the state,
reimbursement for those costs shall be made pursuant to these
statutory provisions.
Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: yes.
State-mandated local program: yes.


THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

SECTION 1. Section 829.7 is added to the Penal Code, to read:
829.7. (a) The purpose of this section is to establish uniform
minimum training standards designed to increase the level of
competency and reliability of code enforcement officers, to improve
and expand the professional training available to code enforcement
officers, to encourage the active participation of local governments
in the code enforcement training standards process, and to develop
training criteria that will enhance each local government's ability
to protect the lives and property of its citizens.
(b) A public agency employing a code enforcement officer shall
adopt requirements for, and require all code enforcement officers to
wear, apparel or a uniform that allows members of the public to
recognize the person wearing the apparel or uniform as a public
officer.
(c) A public agency employing a code enforcement officer shall
adopt a set of standards and minimum education requirements that do
all of the following:
(1) Establish the number of hours of continuing education required
for an employee to be certified as a code enforcement officer.
(2) Establish an approved curriculum, which shall include material
regarding changes in applicable law.
(3) Require code enforcement officers to complete, and certify
code enforcement officers as having successfully completed, the
following training programs:
(A) A code enforcement officer shall successfully complete a
certified basic training program within 12 months of his or her
initial appointment. Training may be suspended in the event of an
interruption in employment, but each period of service as a code
enforcement officer shall be counted toward the 12-month time period
described in this subparagraph. The failure of a code enforcement
officer to complete a certified basic training program within two
years after his or her initial appointment shall result in the
forfeiture of any accrued training credit.
(B) A code enforcement officer shall successfully complete the
intermediate level of certified training within 12 months from when
he or she successfully completes the basic training program.
(C) A code enforcement officer shall successfully complete the
advanced level of certification within 24 months from when he or she
successfully completes the intermediate training program.
(D) Code enforcement officers shall successfully complete a
minimum of 16 hours of in-service training each year to maintain a
minimum level of proficiency and certification by California
Association of Code Enforcement Officers or an institute of higher
education.
(d) The certified training program described in paragraph (3) of
subdivision (c) shall be administered by any of the following:
(1) An organization comprised of at least 750 code enforcement
officers, which provides at least 20,000 hours of annual person-hours
of training.
(2) A career technical education program.
(3) An institution of higher education.
SEC. 2. If the Commission on State Mandates determines that this
act contains costs mandated by the state, reimbursement to local
agencies and school districts for those costs shall be made pursuant
to Part 7 (commencing with Section 17500) of Division 4 of Title 2 of
the Government Code.

mark handler
May 11th, 2011, 19:39
Waaaaaaaaaaaa

TimNY
May 11th, 2011, 19:43
Apparel or a uniform. Could be a golf tee with the municipality name on it.

Actually, a uniform could be anything.. such as your everyday workwear and some clown shoes.. or maybe those glasses with the mustache attached to it.. or an ID card on a lanyard. As long as you are readily identifiable as a public employee :)

pwood
May 11th, 2011, 19:51
i still have my mickey mouse ears with my name on them, would that qualify?

Daddy-0-
May 11th, 2011, 22:50
Agree with Tim. If you have an I.D. on a lanyard and add a baseball cap that states ______County Code Enforcement then you have met the intent. A polo or jacket with a logo would also qualify. Personally I like it. They would have to buy your clothes....nice. What will they come up with next. I heard today on the radio about some county lifeguards in Cali that are making $211,000.00 per year. They won't mind buying you a few shirts.

fatboy
May 12th, 2011, 05:52
And the code supports identification. I agree it is as simple as having a clip-on ID, and a shirt or cap. From the 2003 IBC; (only thing I have at home)

104.5 Identification. The building official shall carry proper
identification when inspecting structures or premises in the
performance of duties under this code.

Mule
May 12th, 2011, 09:09
Our AHJ purchases our pants (docker style) and shirts. The shirts have our city logo on them.

Pcinspector1
May 12th, 2011, 09:10
Becareful where you eat your lunch,
that restaurant employee you cited last week for junk might put a booger in your burger since your not incognito any more!

pc1

beach
May 12th, 2011, 09:26
Personally, I don't have a problem with uniforms, I wear one everyday I work (Class C, badge, etc.) The question is....what is the interpretation of "...apparel or a
uniform that allows members of the public to recognize the person
wearing the apparel or uniform as a public officer."?

To me, a polo shirt, baseball cap, and ID on a lanyard wouldn't make you recognizable as a public officer unless you were very close to the person and I'm really not sure of the exact intent of the assembly bill.

Also, what is the exact definition of a Code Enforcement officer? My interpretation would be a person from the planning or building dept. that enforces the planning and building codes separate from a building inspector, but others may have a different interpretation. However, a police officer falls under the category described.... what about a plain clothes police detective or arson investigator?

I think the proposed bill is very unclear.

Mac
May 12th, 2011, 10:15
A shirt or hat, or ID on a lanyard will all allow the public to recognize and identify a public officer. Lots of people identify you when you drive up in a city vehicle and get out with a clipboard or file.

FredK
May 12th, 2011, 11:05
A shirt or hat, or ID on a lanyard will all allow the public to recognize and identify a public officer. Lots of people identify you when you drive up in a city vehicle and get out with a clipboard or file.

Gee that sounds like me except I wear the shirt, cap and have a exposed ID card at all times. Only once was I ever asked to show the ID.

Except years ago the city would get you 5 shirts a year and then now it's down to 2. Sure make it look tacky wearing the older shirts at times.

conarb
May 12th, 2011, 13:28
An act to add Section 829.7 to the Penal Code, relating to code enforcement officers.

legislative counsel’s digest

AB 801, as introduced, Swanson. Code enforcement officers: training.

Existing law defines a code enforcement officer to include specified public employees whose duties include enforcement of any statute, rules, regulations, or standards, and who are authorized to issue citations or file formal complaints.¹Note that the legislation, if it becomes statute, becomes part of the Penal Code, will that make building officials sworn public safety officers? Is the word "any" going to be interpreted as specific statutes, rules, regulations, or standards, or is going to be interpreted as "all" statutes, rules, regulations, or standards? Is this going to make building personnel eligible for the higher salaries and benefits of sworn public safety officers? Will building officials become insolent and arrogant like fire and police personnel?


¹ http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/bill/asm/ab_0801-0850/ab_801_bill_20110217_introduced.pdf

Code Neophyte
May 12th, 2011, 14:09
Is this going to make building personnel eligible for the higher salaries and benefits of sworn public safety officers? Will building officials become insolent and arrogant like fire and police personnel?

Will we then be able to grocery shop on "company time", too???

brudgers
May 12th, 2011, 14:09
Note that the legislation, if it becomes statute, becomes part of the Penal Code, will that make building officials sworn public safety officers? Is the word "any" going to be interpreted as specific statutes, rules, regulations, or standards, or is going to be interpreted as "all" statutes, rules, regulations, or standards? Is this going to make building personnel eligible for the higher salaries and benefits of sworn public safety officers? Will building officials become insolent and arrogant like fire and police personnel? ¹ http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/bill/asm/ab_0801-0850/ab_801_bill_20110217_introduced.pdf

In Florida, code officials are licensed by the state and protected by many of the same laws as police officers.

It doesn't create much problem.

conarb
May 12th, 2011, 14:41
Will we then be able to grocery shop on "company time", too???

Not only that, you should be able to park your cars in the Handicapped zones right at the front doors of the markets while you are shopping just like the firemen park their shiny red fire engines.

beach
May 12th, 2011, 15:07
What happened Conarb, did you get bored at the other site?:butt:yawn

FM William Burns
May 12th, 2011, 15:56
ROFLMAO............probably the type who failed the tests and has a grudge.....crap did I just say that. Ops forgot to add 1600 hrs. time to take my boat out and fish....thanks for percs!

permitguy
May 12th, 2011, 16:15
Stop it! I'm laughing so hard I almost fell out of my La-Z-Boy. ;)

Pcinspector1
May 12th, 2011, 16:29
Are CA inspectors allowed to pack or carry.

beach
May 12th, 2011, 17:03
Are CA inspectors allowed to pack or carry.

Not building or code enforcement inspectors

Some Fire dept. personnel may carry IF allowed by their jurisdiction, per the penal code:

Section: 830.37

The following persons are peace officers whose authority extends to any place in the state for the purpose of performing their primary duty or when making an arrest pursuant to Section 836 as to any public offense with respect to which there is immediate danger to person or property, or of the escape of the perpetrator of that offense, or pursuant to Section 8597 or 8598 of the Government Code. These peace officers may carry firearms only if authorized and under terms and conditions specified by their employing agency:
(a)Members of an arson-investigating unit, regularly paid and employed in that capacity, of a fire department or fire protection agency of a county, city, city and county, district, or the state, if the primary duty of these peace officers is the detection and apprehension of persons who have violated any fire law or committed insurance fraud.
(b)Members other than members of an arson-investigating unit, regularly paid and employed in that capacity, of a fire department or fire protection agency of a county, city, city and county, district, or the state, if the primary duty of these peace officers, when acting in that capacity, is the enforcement of laws relating to fire prevention or fire suppression.
(c)Voluntary fire wardens as are designated by the Director of Forestry and Fire Protection pursuant to Section 4156 of the Public Resources Code, provided that the primary duty of these peace officers shall be the enforcement of the law as that duty is set forth in Section 4156 of the Public Resources Code.
(d)Firefighter/security guards by the Military Department, if the primary duty of the peace officer is the enforcement of the law in or about properties owned, operated, or administered by the employing agency or when performing necessary duties with respect to patrons, employees, and properties of the employing agency.

Papio Bldg Dept
May 12th, 2011, 17:20
Becareful where you eat your lunch,
that restaurant employee you cited last week for junk might put a booger in your burger since your not incognito any more!

pc1

"Yeah, I'd like a burger and litre of cola" -Favre in Supertroopers

Alias
May 12th, 2011, 22:37
Are CA inspectors allowed to pack or carry.

Depends on the county. I don't but could if I wanted to do so. SO & PD would both give me a CCW permit.

pwood
May 13th, 2011, 11:36
sue,
where you are at you should be more concerned with rattlesnakes than contractor snakes!:mrgreen:

Alias
May 13th, 2011, 11:51
sue,
where you are at you should be more concerned with rattlesnakes than contractor snakes!:mrgreen:

pwood -

Naw, it's about a 50/50 proposition as to who is the worst 'snake in the grass' this year. : )

Pcinspector1
May 13th, 2011, 11:52
Sue, you should be more concerened with a rolled carpet in the yard with thousands of man eating fleas!!
I had to go the rest of the day comando style if you know what I mean!

pc1

pwood
May 13th, 2011, 13:32
Sue, you should be more concerened with a rolled carpet in the yard with thousands of man eating flees!!
I had to go the rest of the day comando style if you know what I mean!

pc1

what kind of a gun do you use to shoot fleas?

mtlogcabin
May 13th, 2011, 13:45
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0PDoS9Gbs1NEikA8W2jzbkF/SIG=11mpk9bf5/EXP=1305337542/**http%3a//i46.tinypic.com/10x4tpg.jpg

Mule
May 13th, 2011, 13:50
what kind of a gun do you use to shoot fleas?

You gotta go to a flea market to purchase a flea shooter.

Pcinspector1
May 13th, 2011, 13:59
pwood,

At the time I was'nt thinking of the type gun to carry more of the type bomb to throw on them! Gives me shakes just thinking about it!

I'm pretty sure the CA uniform will be no match for fleas!

pc1

conarb
May 13th, 2011, 14:45
Just as long as they don't wear those Colonel Cornpone uniforms with the epaulets on the shoulders like the phony fire marshals wear. Those should be reserved for Surgeon General C. Everett Koop.

permitguy
May 13th, 2011, 16:45
Then where would I clip my cool sunglasses and lapel mic for my radio?

pwood
May 16th, 2011, 11:17
You gotta go to a flea market to purchase a flea shooter.

mule,
you would be seriously out gunned with a flea shooter phfftt! nothing less than a flea fifty seven mag in this situation!

Mule
May 16th, 2011, 11:32
mule,
you would be seriously out gunned with a flea shooter phfftt! nothing less than a flea fifty seven mag in this situation!

That was good! :cheers

Alias
May 16th, 2011, 12:39
Sue, you should be more concerened with a rolled carpet in the yard with thousands of man eating fleas!!
I had to go the rest of the day comando style if you know what I mean!

pc1

pc1 -

No fleas here, just lots of hungry mosquitos. Must be the attitude, um, altitude. ;)

Alias
May 16th, 2011, 12:41
Rotflmao! :)