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    Draft Stopping

    The building official reviewing my permit application/plans has held up my permit and stated "Draft stopping required section 302.12 of the 2009 IRC please show how this will be completed...Draft stopping includes attic and floor truss areas. "

    After reading 302.12 I agreed the floor trusses should be draft stopped. However, I do not agree that the attic is required to be draft stopped. Now, I am not saying it isn't a prudent thing to do. I may want to draft stop the attic anyway, but does the code really require it in this case.

    I am building a single story ranch home with a walkout basement. 16" floor trusses are used between the basement and main floor. I plan to drywall the basement ceiling. Roof trusses are used above the main area. 302.12 reads ...In combustible construction where there is usable space both above and below the concealed space of a floor/ceiling assembly...". There is no usable space above the roof trusses so I do not think 302.12 applies to the roof trusses.

    I am building in central PA, Bethel Township. He is quoting only the IRC, no local codes.

    I was not sure if I should post this here or in the residential fire code forum. Sorry if I guessed wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bozobozo View Post
    The building official reviewing my permit application/plans has held up my permit and stated "Draft stopping required section 302.12 of the 2009 IRC please show how this will be completed...Draft stopping includes attic and floor truss areas. "

    After reading 302.12 I agreed the floor trusses should be draft stopped. However, I do not agree that the attic is required to be draft stopped. Now, I am not saying it isn't a prudent thing to do. I may want to draft stop the attic anyway, but does the code really require it in this case.

    I am building a single story ranch home with a walkout basement. 16" floor trusses are used between the basement and main floor. I plan to drywall the basement ceiling. Roof trusses are used above the main area. 302.12 reads ...In combustible construction where there is usable space both above and below the concealed space of a floor/ceiling assembly...". There is no usable space above the roof trusses so I do not think 302.12 applies to the roof trusses.

    I am building in central PA, Bethel Township. He is quoting only the IRC, no local codes.

    I was not sure if I should post this here or in the residential fire code forum. Sorry if I guessed wrong.
    Are you required to provide attic access per 2009 IRC R807.1?

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    Don't know off-hand why the attic in a single fam would require draftstopping. Don't have the 09's with me but I think the IBC for R1 & R2 require draftstop at unit separation or 3000ft depending but I don't think an attic if accessible would be considered a concealed space between a floor and ceiling.

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    I have planned an access (no pull down stairs) just to maintain the radon fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bozobozo View Post
    The building official reviewing my permit application/plans has held up my permit and stated "Draft stopping required section 302.12 of the 2009 IRC please show how this will be completed...Draft stopping includes attic and floor truss areas. "

    After reading 302.12 I agreed the floor trusses should be draft stopped. However, I do not agree that the attic is required to be draft stopped. Now, I am not saying it isn't a prudent thing to do. I may want to draft stop the attic anyway, but does the code really require it in this case.

    I am building a single story ranch home with a walkout basement. 16" floor trusses are used between the basement and main floor. I plan to drywall the basement ceiling. Roof trusses are used above the main area. 302.12 reads ...In combustible construction where there is usable space both above and below the concealed space of a floor/ceiling assembly...". There is no usable space above the roof trusses so I do not think 302.12 applies to the roof trusses.

    I am building in central PA, Bethel Township. He is quoting only the IRC, no local codes.

    I was not sure if I should post this here or in the residential fire code forum. Sorry if I guessed wrong.
    2009 IRC R302.12 applies to floor/ceiling assemblies. An attic is not a floor/ceiling assembly. 2009 IBC 717.4.3 could be applied if the attic space exceeds 3,000 sf.

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    More details for draft stopping question

    The overall attic space (if you include the attic over the garage portion) is about 4200 sf. However, due to the configuration of the roof, the center portion is framed using valley trusses. To do this we need to sheath the center portion "normal" trusses first. This would effectively divide the attic area info "sub-3000" ft areas. There will be open areas in this sheathing to facilitate framing/insulation. We can close these up if necessary. Would this consitute acceptable draftstopping?

    Here is a rough drawing. Sorry for the quality. Had to compress it to get it under the attachment threshold.


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    "Would this consitute acceptable draftstopping?"

    Yes, if you have separated the attic to there is no spaces larger that 3000 s.f. roof sheathing would be acceptable as draftstopping.

    Show him the detail, should be good to go. I imagine he's calling it out now, so you are not surprised when it gets called in the field.
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    Sounds like you are doing it whether its intended or not. Still don't see how its required under IRC.

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    Sorry, had flashbacks to UBC days...........not in the IRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu View Post
    Sounds like you are doing it whether its intended or not. Still don't see how its required under IRC.
    I agree that the IRC has no general requirement for attic draft stopping.

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    I agree. Draftstopping in floor, but attic not required in IRC. Plan review may have had just a general note he applies to all reviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bozobozo View Post
    The building official reviewing my permit application/plans has held up my permit and stated "Draft stopping required section 302.12 of the 2009 IRC please show how this will be completed...Draft stopping includes attic and floor truss areas. "

    After reading 302.12 I agreed the floor trusses should be draft stopped. However, I do not agree that the attic is required to be draft stopped. Now, I am not saying it isn't a prudent thing to do. I may want to draft stop the attic anyway, but does the code really require it in this case.

    I am building a single story ranch home with a walkout basement. 16" floor trusses are used between the basement and main floor. I plan to drywall the basement ceiling. Roof trusses are used above the main area. 302.12 reads ...In combustible construction where there is usable space both above and below the concealed space of a floor/ceiling assembly...". There is no usable space above the roof trusses so I do not think 302.12 applies to the roof trusses.

    I am building in central PA, Bethel Township. He is quoting only the IRC, no local codes.

    I was not sure if I should post this here or in the residential fire code forum. Sorry if I guessed wrong.
    Since the attic exceeds 3,000 sf and the IRC is silent can an AHJ apply the attic draft stopping provision out of the IBC?

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    Families homeless, firefighters hurt after massive New Jersey fire
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    The Jersey Journal reported that the six-alarm blaze started in the basement of one of the buildings and quickly spread throughout the block via a common cockloft, which is a type of attic space shared by the homes.

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    There were no immediate reports of injuries among the buildings' residents.
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    The Jersey Journal reported that the six-alarm blaze started in the basement of one of the buildings and quickly spread throughout the block via a common cockloft, which is a type of attic space shared by the homes.
    Never permitted by CABO, the UBC or SBCCI and only permitted under the IBC if the attic is sprinklered.
    Not permitted under the IRC either
    Not sure about the BOCA code.

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    If you comply with the fireblocking then don't you think the draftstopping is also complied with for ceiling assemblies into the attic space?
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    Where can I find the definition of concealed space?
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