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Discussion in 'Commercial Building Codes' started by jwilly3879, Dec 22, 2017.

  1. ADAguy

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    Good Discussion!
     
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    I still wonder if it is a basement?? and

    Does it meet the criteria for sprinklers?
     
  3. JBI

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    Stick to your guns jwilly. When in doubt call your regional technical services office for input/clarification.
    For a County owned building the County Engineers can make whatever call they want, but for a Town owned project it is the Town's call.
     
  4. cda

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    Plus Building hieght for an “ A “?????
     
  5. jwilly3879

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    Call it the lower level but it doesn't meet the requirement as a story and the total height is < 40'
    I sent an email to get opinion and clarification from DOS
     
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    The most aggravating part of all this is the Town (supervisor and board) were aware of all of this before they went ahead with the project. I also informed them that a hydrant test should have been done prior proceeding with the larger design but they seemed to ignore that so consequently the fire protection system became a much more expensive project.

    This entire project has been of the "Ready, Shoot , Aim" mentality.

    I have not doubt I will prevail but be quite unpopular with those looking for an early grand opening.
     
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    unpopular with those looking for an early grand opening


    That is why you get the big bucks
     
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    The Supervisor is applying for a waiver from the DOS.
     
  9. cda

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    Not supposed to waive stuff unless the city has an ordnance saying that !!!


    Only equal or interpretation


    Just show them the Rhode Island night club, as your opening remark
     
  10. JBI

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    cda - NYS has a statewide program based on legislation and implemented through regulation, that provides for relief to be granted by the State where appropriate.
    That jwilly3879 has requested an opinion is the correct process.
    Oddly enough that the Supervisor has requested a waiver (technically 'variance') is equally appropriate.
    In order to qualify for the variance a hearing will likely be necessary, and the CEO's position will be heard.
    Also the Board of Review will likely require something to increase safety in lieu of sprinklers.
     
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    Have to love New York
     
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    My guess would be the DOS will require a fire alarm system and increased extinguishers. Time will tell.
     
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    They may also ask for a higher type of construction (even going to V-A would provide increased safety), additional exits, dry hydrants, or any of a number of improvements to compensate.
     
  14. ADAguy

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    Time to contact the "Press"?
     
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    Can exit 300+ now with greatest travel distance <50 feet. Problem is Building is framed already and the cost of the sprinkler system is over $100k because of the water issue.
     
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    Throw your body on the job, to stop them

    Love government construction jobs
     
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    I had something like this once. Of all things it was a fire company that was fighting me about sprinklers in a new fire house. I think they felt embarrassed about it and eventually caved and put the sprinklers in.
     
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    Just thinking try to get the fire chief on your side.
     
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    The Town is waiting for the sprinkler bids to come in. 70K or less they will install, over then they will apply for a hardship variance.

    The project is funded by grant money and I hope more funds could become available.
     
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