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number of showers for health club

Discussion in 'Commercial Plumbing Codes' started by linnrg, Aug 10, 2015.

  1. ADAguy

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    In West Hollywood it is for those going thru the transition and inspite of differring plumbing see themselves as more than mere cross dressers.

    I recently reviewed a CSU which requested a universal sex RR with common lavs and separate compartments for toilets and no urinals.

    In many foreign countries it is not uncommon for RR's to accommodate all sex's.
     
  2. north star

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    I am referencing this Topic again, because I have some questions
    about Showers.......I am using the `12 IBC, other `12 I-Codes and the
    `09 A117.1 Standard as a starting point.......We should be using
    & referencing the `18 I-Codes and the `17 A117.1, but it hasn't
    quite gotten to that point yet.

    That said, I have an existing Type B Occ. group facility.......They will
    be performing a renovation on a large part of the building, to include
    renovating the existing Restrooms, both Male & Female.......Presently
    there are no Showers for the Females.......They plan to install two in
    the newly renovated \ expanded Female Restroom.

    Since the plan is to install two Shower Compartments for the Females,
    is there any Accessibility "charging language" to require these Shower
    Compartments to be fully Accessible if there is no requirement in the
    IBC or IPC for Showers in a Type B. Occupancy ?........If there IS
    "charging language" for Accessibility compliance, how many of these
    Showers are "required" to be Accessible ?.....I am referring to Post # 5
    & Post # 17 in this thread.

    Would Section 1109.2 - Toilet and bathing facilities; in the `12 IBC,
    be the "charging language" to require only one Shower Compartment

    to be Accessible ?

    Thanks ya'll ! :D


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  3. Rick18071

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    I only have the 2012 IBC
    1109.2 At least one of each fixture, element, control or dispenser in each accessible toilet room and bathing room shall be accessible..
     
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    So it looks like if a shower is not in a bathing room or toilet room it does not need to be accessible, like a shower just off the gym or an outside shower.
     
  5. steveray

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    I kinda agree with Rick...but if a shower is in a room, it is a bathing room and 1109.2 would apply..
     
  6. north star

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    **Rick** & **steveray**, ...thanks for the input.


    Both of your interpretations are also the way that I am thinking,
    but I read Post # 5 [ in this thread ] from **Mark Handler**,

    and I interpreted his remarks to mean "all" Showers need
    to be Accessibly compliant.......I even mentioned "each" shower
    must be compliant in Post # 6, but presently, I cannot locate a
    Code or Standard that "requires" Accessibility compliance for
    each Shower Compartment........D`OH !

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  7. Pcinspector1

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    I believe it would be similar to a row of toilet stalls, not all toilet stalls have to meet ADA, but at least one should. Same as a shower room, one should be ADA compliant IMO based off of 1109.2 IMO.
     
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    $ ~ $ ~ $

    Thank you **Pcinspector1** for your input !

    $ ~ $ ~ $
     
  9. ADAguy

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    So, it seems then to come down to if you provide lockers (how many?), then use at a minimum 5 -10%, 50% being men and 50% women or 100% gender neutral. A minimum of 1 or 5% to be accessible. Check a few country clubs or swim clubs in the area for comparisons.
     

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