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Type I or Type II Hood??

Discussion in 'Commercial Mechanical Codes' started by Big Mac, Sep 10, 2012.

  1. cda

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    Wyoming??

    Welcome
     
  2. cda

    cda Sawhorse

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    Cook outside the building, simplest fix.

    More than likely you will not find the test.

    It has to be done on the spefic brand and model you are using.
     
  3. Charlie Radich

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    We've talked about that. Problem is that our Festival is in September and in Cheyenne, Wyo. September can mean wind, snow and cold temperatures.
     
  4. cda

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    Borrow a food trailer

    Three sided tent with heater

    Ummmmm

    Cook hot dogs??
     
  5. mtlogcabin

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    He is trying to require a code provision for a permanent installation to a temporary 2 day event which is not the intent for the requirement of Type I hoods.
    He needs to look further into the fire code and work with you and not against you. It already sounds like a non-combustible building with extremely high ceilings would be a positive for this event. A doughnut fryer fire can easily be extinguished by replacing or dropping the lid. Is the lid attached to the fryer or can it be completely removed during the cooking operation?
    A Type I hood has to purposes to remove grease and provide an extinguishing system in the event of a cooking fire. I do not believe grease will be an issue during this 2 day event. There are numerous ways to extinguish a grease fire manually and automatically.

    He has the tools available to use to make your event safe without requiring a hood with an exhaust and suppression system

    [A] 104.8 Modifications.
    Whenever there are practical difficulties involved in carrying out the provisions of this code, the fire code official shall have the authority to grant modifications for individual cases, provided the fire code official shall first find that special individual reason makes the strict letter of this code impractical and the modification is in compliance with the intent and purpose of this code and that such modification does not lessen health, life and fire safety requirements. The details of action granting modifications shall be recorded and entered in the files of the department of fire prevention.


    SECTION 403
    PUBLIC ASSEMBLAGES AND EVENTS

    403.1 Fire watch personnel.
    When, in the opinion of the fire code official, it is essential for public safety in a place of assembly or any other place where people congregate, because of the number of persons, or the nature of the performance, exhibition, display, contest or activity, the owner, agent or lessee shall provide one or more fire watch personnel, as required and approved, to remain on duty during the times such places are open to the public, or when such activity is being conducted.


    403.1.1 Duties.
    Fire watch personnel shall keep diligent watch for fires, obstructions to means of egress and other hazards during the time such place is open to the public or such activity is being conducted and take prompt measures for remediation of hazards, extinguishment of fires that occur and assist in the evacuation of the public from the structures.

    403.2 Public safety plan.
    In other than Group A or E occupancies, where the fire code official determines that an indoor or outdoor gathering of persons has an adverse impact on public safety through diminished access to buildings, structures, fire hydrants and fire apparatus access roads or where such gatherings adversely affect public safety services of any kind, the fire code official shall have the authority to order the development of, or prescribe a plan for, the provision of an approved level of public safety.

    403.2.1 Contents.
    The public safety plan, where required by Section 403.2, shall address such items as emergency vehicle ingress and egress, fire protection, emergency egress or escape routes, emergency medical services, public assembly areas and the directing of both attendees and vehicles (including the parking of vehicles), vendor and food concession distribution, and the need for the presence of law enforcement, and fire and emergency medical services personnel at the event.

    403.3 Crowd managers.
    Trained crowd managers shall be provided for facilities or events where more than 1,000 persons congregate. The minimum number of crowd managers shall be established at a ratio of one crowd manager to every 250 persons. Where approved by the fire code official, the ratio of crowd managers shall be permitted to be reduced where the facility is equipped throughout with an approved automatic sprinkler system or based upon the nature of the event.
     
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    3106.5.2 Protection. Cooking equipment using combustible
    oils or solids shall meet the following:

    1. A noncombustible lid shall be immediately available.
    The lid shall be of sufficient size to cover the
    cooking well completely.

    2. The equipment shall be placed on a noncombustible
    surface.

    3. An approved portable fire extinguisher for protection
    from cooking grease fires shall be provided at a
    location approved by the fire code official.
     
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  8. cda

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    Or maybe to make him fell better, some how fashion something metal above the doughnut fryers and get a few of these and stick to it::


    https://stovetopfirestop.com/


    Just watch any flame, because they work.
     
  9. north star

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    @ ~ @ ~ @ ~ @

    Or they could recommend having the Festival earlier in the summer... :p

    @ ~ @ ~ @ ~ @
     
  10. Builder Bob

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    Charlie, afraid not much help is coming fortwright on this..... Maybe a cart outside with fryers and food runners in would be an acceptable solution with Fire Marshal especially being temporary in nature.
     

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