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Business Signs

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Does anyone have an amendment to their building code enacted through your municipal code to exempt certain signs from a building permit?

I am looking to come up with an exemption that would allow monument signs (like image below) to be constructed without a building permit. Thinking of setting the limit at 5'9" (to match racking exemption).

Thanks!

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Stick it with the other exempts??

Small fence, wall etc

What if it needs electricity??
 
Stick it with the other exempts??

Small fence, wall etc

What if it needs electricity??
So, in most of Washington, the State Dept. of L&I does the electrical inspections.

We exempt walls less than 42" in exposed height and fences less than 7-ft tall. Want to put some official language towards the exemption of monument signs, but looking for what others have done.
 
Here it wouldn't matter. P&Z would want a placement permit anyway just as they do with our other exempt structures. They want to verify placement so it doesn't mess with line of site, right or way and other set backs.
 
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Here it wouldn't matter. P&Z would want a placement permit anyway just as they do with our other exempt structures. They want to verify placement so it doesn't mesh with line of site, right or way and other set backs.
Our Planning Division would still require a permit.... but we'd exempt the Building Permit and associated footing inspections.
 
Think high winds.
and that 6-year old that gets hit by the almost 6 foot high sign, that cuts off their head.
 
Zoning issues the sign permits we look at the construction details and approve or disapprove the construction design. Not a building department permit it is a zoning sign permit
Even though we cannot adopt appendix H because the state has not adopted it we use it as a " standard guide" when looking at the construction design of a sign.

Maybe you can modify the height restrictions in the language below and use it for a "monument" sign.

SECTION H109
GROUND SIGNS
H109.1 Height restrictions.
The structural frame of ground signs shall not be erected of combustible materials to a height of more than 35 feet (10 668 mm) above the ground. Ground signs constructed entirely of noncombustible material shall not be erected to a height of greater than 100 feet (30 480 mm) above the ground. Greater heights are permitted where approved and located so as not to create a hazard or danger to the public.
H109.2 Required clearance.
The bottom coping of every ground sign shall be not less than 3 feet (914 mm) above the ground or street level, which space can be filled with platform decorative trim or light wooden construction.
H109.3 Wood anchors and supports.
Where wood anchors or supports are embedded in the soil, the wood shall be pressure treated with an approved preservative.
 
Zoning issues the sign permits we look at the construction details and approve or disapprove the construction design. Not a building department permit it is a zoning sign permit
Even though we cannot adopt appendix H because the state has not adopted it we use it as a " standard guide" when looking at the construction design of a sign.

Maybe you can modify the height restrictions in the language below and use it for a "monument" sign.

SECTION H109
GROUND SIGNS
H109.1 Height restrictions.
The structural frame of ground signs shall not be erected of combustible materials to a height of more than 35 feet (10 668 mm) above the ground. Ground signs constructed entirely of noncombustible material shall not be erected to a height of greater than 100 feet (30 480 mm) above the ground. Greater heights are permitted where approved and located so as not to create a hazard or danger to the public.
H109.2 Required clearance.
The bottom coping of every ground sign shall be not less than 3 feet (914 mm) above the ground or street level, which space can be filled with platform decorative trim or light wooden construction.
H109.3 Wood anchors and supports.
Where wood anchors or supports are embedded in the soil, the wood shall be pressure treated with an approved preservative.
We are similar in that planning issues the primary permit and handles the department routing. However, for us, we issue a separate permit (a building permit) that covers inspection of the foundation and erection of the sign. Engineered plans are required and reviewed.

WA State similarly does not adopt Appendix H.
 
Zoning issues the sign permits we look at the construction details and approve or disapprove the construction design. Not a building department permit it is a zoning sign permit
Even though we cannot adopt appendix H because the state has not adopted it we use it as a " standard guide" when looking at the construction design of a sign.

Maybe you can modify the height restrictions in the language below and use it for a "monument" sign.

SECTION H109
GROUND SIGNS
H109.1 Height restrictions.
The structural frame of ground signs shall not be erected of combustible materials to a height of more than 35 feet (10 668 mm) above the ground. Ground signs constructed entirely of noncombustible material shall not be erected to a height of greater than 100 feet (30 480 mm) above the ground. Greater heights are permitted where approved and located so as not to create a hazard or danger to the public.

Like the term "ground signs", breakaway bases may warrant consideration.
H109.2 Required clearance.
The bottom coping of every ground sign shall be not less than 3 feet (914 mm) above the ground or street level, which space can be filled with platform decorative trim or light wooden construction.
H109.3 Wood anchors and supports.
Where wood anchors or supports are embedded in the soil, the wood shall be pressure treated with an approved preservative.
 
Think high winds.
and that 6-year old that gets hit by the almost 6 foot high sign, that cuts off their head.

Methinks they are more likely to be killed by the 7' fence (no permit) at the yards they are at all the time than the occasional trip to the store during a wind storm....I would love to exempt them...
 
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