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  1. raider1

    isolated neutral

    ICE is the ATS listed for use as service equipment? Chris
  2. raider1

    isolated neutral

    Doesn't have to be common trip just equipped with an identified handle tie. Chris
  3. raider1

    2008 nec 230.70

    Provided that the service entrance conductors meet the requirements of 230.6, the service disconnecting means can be located on the second floor of a building. If the service entrance conductors don't meet the requirements of 230.6 and the service disconnecting means is not located nearest the...
  4. raider1

    When is a neutral a current carrying conductor for 3 phase systems

    Are you asking when a neutral counts as a CCC for ampacity adjustments? Chris
  5. raider1

    meter socket as raceway

    I agree with Dennis, you said both line and load conductors go through the close nipple so I see that as a violation of 230.7. Chris
  6. raider1

    Securing NM cable compliant with 334

    I will echo the sentiments of the others in this thread. I would be fine with the installation. Chris
  7. raider1

    310.15(B)(6) vs IRC E3603.1

    Correct, because Table 310.15(B)(7) (2011 NEC) will also be gone and replaced with a permitted reduction instead of a Table. Chris
  8. raider1

    Splicing a broken CEE condcuctor

    It will be in the 2014 NEC. Here is what 250.68©(3) will say, Chris
  9. raider1

    Mobile Homes, Ground Rods and Disconnects

    550.16 would allow you to not drive 2 ground rods at the mobile home provided that the service equipment is located within 30' of the wall of the mobile home in accordance with 550.32(A). Here is what 550.16 says; Remember Chapter 5 requirements modify the general requirements located in...
  10. raider1

    Mobile Homes, Ground Rods and Disconnects

    Check out 250.32(A). Chris
  11. raider1

    Mixing 12 & 14 gauge wire in a circuit.

    Yes it was a very lively discussion to say the least. Mike did have a good point, so the IAEI will go back to the drawing board and see if we can come up with a better proposal that may not be as broad as this one was. Chris
  12. raider1

    Mixing 12 & 14 gauge wire in a circuit.

    This proposal will most likely be resubmitted for the 2017 NEC. Chris
  13. raider1

    Mixing 12 & 14 gauge wire in a circuit.

    Yes, Robert Kauer was the only voting member of Panel 10 to support the change at the comment stage. I also supported the change but am not a voting member but sit as the alternate to Robert Kauer. Chris
  14. raider1

    Mixing 12 & 14 gauge wire in a circuit.

    Jeff, Just a bit of info you might find interesting. As you probably already know I sit on CMP 10. CMP 10 covers Article 240. During the 2014 code hearings a proposal to require marking conductors as you have mentioned was purposed and passed the proposal stage. During the comment stage the...
  15. raider1

    Residential number of receptacles on a circuit

    I agree with fatboy. For residential there is no limit to the number of receptacles installed on a circuit. But there is a minimum number circuits required to supply general purpose receptacles and lighting. 210.11(A) gives us the requirements for the minimum number of branch circuits...
  16. raider1

    120/208 3 phase to condo and apartment buildings

    By running a 3 phase service to those buildings you can install a smaller service then if you used a single phase service. That is the biggest factor I have seen for the decision to run a 120/208 3 phase service instead of a 120/240 single phase service. So for example I have a calculated load...
  17. raider1

    Number of 120v receptacles on a circuit

    I would agree. IF you take 20 amps multiply that by 120 volts you get 2400 voltamperes. You then divide 2400 VA by 180 VA you get 13.33333333. So if you install 13 duplex receptacles on a 20 amp circuit you would comply with the 180 VA rule in 220.14. Now it can be argued that the rules in...
  18. raider1

    2 ground rods

    I know it is a 3 point test, I happen to have a 3 point fall of potential meter. So you would not let me test my ground rod but make me hire a test lab? Chris
  19. raider1

    2 ground rods

    I agree 100%. Chris
  20. raider1

    2 ground rods

    Wow, is that a State rule or a local rule? I can understand requiring an approved agency to perform the required performance test of a GFPE equipment in 230.95© but a simple ground resistance test to comply with 250.53(A)(2) Exception should be able to be done by an electrical contractor with...
  21. raider1

    2 ground rods

    Does your jurisdiction require a 3rd party test? I allow the electrical contractor to perform the test if they have the proper equipment. Chris
  22. raider1

    2 ground rods

    Thanks Dennis, I'm sure your explanation would have been as good as mine. Chris
  23. raider1

    2 ground rods

    RJJ, The metal sheath of the cable armor protecting the grounding electrode conductor must be bonded to the GEC at both ends. (See 250.64(E)) If you do not bond the cable armor and the grounding electrode conductor at both ends effectively making them a parallel path then during a lightning...
  24. raider1

    Used breakers?

    I can purchase "Reconditioned" circuit breakers that have been refurbished and tested to verify that they meet the standards for the circuit breaker as if it were new. Square D has a system where they will recondition power circuit breakers as this can be way more cost effective then purchasing...
  25. raider1

    Concrete Encased Electrode - Ufer Ground

    I'm not that Chris but may I jump in? I agree that sometimes we place too much emphasis on grounding and ignore the need for proper bonding but both are important. Also IAEI is just an educational organization, NFPA is the organization that publishes the NEC. As far as changing the term...
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