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    It's a horse, of course

    You will want to be aware of this provision of the new ADA. Not so much for enforcement, but, in case someone shows up at your city hall with one or you get a complaint from the community-at-large. What about the domestic animal provisions of the zoning code...
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    What To Do, What To Do.........

    From the 2008 NEC handbook for section 517.1 (in part) "The scope of Article 517 also includes health care facilities that may be mobile or supply very limited outpatient services. However, the scope does not include animal hospitals or veterinary offices."
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    Typo in Table 720.1(2)

    Well ... they almost fixed it in the 2006 errata. Here's the change: "2” x 6” wood studs at 24” centers with double top plates, single bottom plate; interior and exterior side covered with two layers of 5/8” Type X gypsum wallboard, 4’ wide, applied horizontally with vertical joints over studs...
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    Typo in Table 720.1(2)

    My 2009 pdf copy seems to be correct 7 3/4".
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    Bars Across Non-Required Exterior Doors

    Sorry:cry:, didn't mean it that way. The part I thought was ridiculous (maybe the wrong word) was adding a 29" drop on the 3rd page of the thread. If that had been in the original post, we wouldn't be on the 3rd page. The answer would have been easy not only barricade, remove all hardware, screw...
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    Bars Across Non-Required Exterior Doors

    You obviously didn't read the entire answer. "The minimum required number of exits and exit access elements specified in Sections 1014.1 and 1018.1 provide an acceptable level of safety for the occupants. Although additional doorways are permitted, they are not specifically required to comply...
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    Bars Across Non-Required Exterior Doors

    This from the 2003 ICC (& 1996 BOCA) Interpretations book: "Q: Is it mandatory for nonrequired doorways to contribute to the egress capacity of the room or space from which they lead? A: No. The minimum required number of exits and exit access elements specified in Sections 1014.1 and 1018.1...
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    R602.10 clear as mud now

    See Table R602.10.4.1.
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    Type IIB vs Type IIIB Construction

    A long time ago someone told me that III-B was part of the code to cover typical commercial construction of pre-50's type. Where the exterior walls were built on fairly narrow lots and the building usually had a store on the first floor and the proprietor's dwelling on the upper floors. The...
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    unenclosed stairs

    Thanx, Coug. I guess unenclosed stairs are inherently safer than enclosed stairs in the same situation. An enclosed stair would require the area where the enclosure discharges onto the grade floor to have the basement floor-ceiling 1 hour fire rated and only one (50%) stair could do that. We...
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    unenclosed stairs

    A fully sprinklered, 2 stories plus basement, B use group, complies with all code sections except (maybe): 06 IBC 1024.1, Exceptions 1 & 2. 1024.1 Exits shall discharge directly to the exterior of the building. The exit discharge shall be at grade or shall provide direct access to grade...
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    Accessibility to Storage or Equip. Room

    Ok, I missed the dates. But the amendments made with the adoption of the state version were not included. We have over 1000 changes/amendments made to bring the model code inline with state statutes.
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    Accessibility to Storage or Equip. Room

    Great list! BUT, if you have state or local amendments, they may not be included. I went through the Ohio building, mechanical, and plumbing codes, except for an outdated Chapter 1 (which is totally re-written by the state, latest rewrite in July, 2009), there were no Ohio amendments included...
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    plenums and fire areas 2006 codes

    Misc. facts. Original building constructed late 70's as a medical office building owned by a hospital. Subsequent additions for use as I-2, 3 hour separation then, 2 hour separation required today. Areas, separated or combined, will meet allowed area w/ open perimeter increase even though its...
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    plenums and fire areas 2006 codes

    1. IMC 602.1 limits a plenum to one (1) fire area. 2. IMC 607.5.1 and 607.5.2 (as well as IBC 716.5.1 and 716.5.2) permit ducts and air transfer openings in firewalls and fire barriers respectively. Size of all openings meet the limitations of 705.8 and meet the requirements of IBC 705.11...
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    Maximum occupancy change

    You should require a reinspection by the licensing agency for their increased occupant load. Many daycare licensing agencies determine the occupant load based, not only on area but also, on the number of staff per children. The younger the children then more staff is required such as 1 staff/5...
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    Egress Door

    I agree with you. A toilet room, janitor closet, and storage rooms are "occupied spaces" when someone is in them. They then need a way out. Now maybe, there might be some confusion on your colleagues' part due that these are not considered "normally occupied spaces" in sections 1020.1.1, 1024.1...
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    metal stud track attach directly to steel beams/columns SFRM "embedded"

    Not to be discouraging ... but it looks like you have joints subject to 06IBC 713 and ASTM E1966 and UL2079 (713.3). E1996 among other things takes into account the ability of the studs to remain in place for the duration and not expand out and compromise the wall assembly. Probably the reason...
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    Drop out ceilings for sprinkler system.

    I agree w/ cda - I wouldn't put my name to it either. These tiles are made to be placed under sprinklers not above (said for emphasis - I know that you know that). Painting removes its approval for below sprinklers and removes its Class A rating ( see cda's link). What does the rating become...
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    Nonabsorbent Surface IBC 1210

    I emailed the wall surface question to the Gypsum Association a few years ago, after discussing (ok, arguing) the point with architects; this was GA's reply "As far as I know, gypsum board is not considered to be nonabsorbent. This code requirement is generally referring to the wall surfacing...
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    outlets on decks/porches

    Dang . . Details! 210.52(E)(1) applies to 1 and 2 family dwellings only. So if the 10th floor balcony is part of a 1 or 2 family dwelling and greater than 20 sf, you will 1 receptacle at the balcony and 1 at grade. Not to leave any details out, I will presume that the 10th floor balcony is...
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    outlets on decks/porches

    Besides the receptacle for the deck req'd by 210.52(E)(3) for decks/porches/balconies > 20 sf. You need to look at 210.52(E)(1) which requires the rear (as well as the front) receptacle to be "accessible while standing at grade level". If the receptacle is located near enough to an edge, it...
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    Nehring ground rods

    Nehring ground rods lose UL certification, not enough copper plating. http://www.ul.com/global/eng/pages/corporate/newsroom/newsitem.jsp?cpath=%2Fglobalweb%2Fglobal%2Feng%2Fcontent%2Fcorporate%2Fnewsroom%2Fpublicnotices%2Fdata%2Ful-warns-of-ground-rods-with-inadequate-copper_20100610080000.xml
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    Handrail Extension?

    117.1 shows the idealized vertical return by being perpendicular to the floor. However, your angled return is also subject to protruding object limitations in 117.1 - 307.2 and ADAAG 4.4.1. So the horizontal distance from the tip of the railing as it bends down to the where it meets the floor is...
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    Floor Finish

    Glad if I was of help. It brought back memories of a day care center I designed several years ago, and without my knowledge, the owner put interlocking rubber mats throughout the indoor play area. The building and fire depts. raised the same flag. The NFPA 253 test report showed Class I, a...
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