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  1. Vlab20

    handicapped upgrade of toilets in Michigan

    Thanks for that feedback.
  2. Vlab20

    handicapped upgrade of toilets in Michigan

    Allowed to use the word "handicapped" ? Never heard of anyone having any issue with the word. My issue covers all challenges...vision, mobility, auditory, ALL things covered in the Americans with Disability Act = handicapped.
  3. Vlab20

    handicapped upgrade of toilets in Michigan

    We are designing a 8000 sf addition to an existing hospital and remodeling a small portion of an existing department that is adjacent to the expansion. All new construction will have accessible route, toilets etc. There is a toilet in the remodel area that is NOT ADA accessible. Michigan has a...
  4. Vlab20

    Corridor rating (IBC 2018)

    So based on the above...if you go to Jay Smith's post of a floor plan, the flesh colored area- would be considered "the corridor". And because more than 30 occupants could be running around in the corridor it needs to be rated? My thought...this plan has 3 exits and thus multiple exit paths in...
  5. Vlab20

    Corridor rating (IBC 2018)

    If I add a 3rd exit door I basically have only 21 people using each of the remaining doors thus staying under the 30 occupants served by the corridor.
  6. Vlab20

    Corridor rating (IBC 2018)

    I am assuming corridors. What I am trying to avoid is rating that corridor. If my occupant load is 42 people for the entire space/building that "seems" to ppoint to I have to rate the corridor based on Table 1020.1 which says OCCUPANT LOAD SERVED BY CORRIODR is greater than 30 people = 1-hour...
  7. Vlab20

    Corridor rating (IBC 2018)

    I consider my corridors as corridors in this case. Jay Smith posted a great example of what I am facing
  8. Vlab20

    Corridor rating (IBC 2018)

    So based on some posters here, I will need to rate all of these corridors (flesh colored) as 1-hour rated and all the doors will be 45 minute with closers. As I look at Table 1020.1 it says...OCCUPANT LOAD SERVED BY CORRIDOR. This plan has 3 exit points which means I have in general 14 people...
  9. Vlab20

    Corridor rating (IBC 2018)

    no aisle...these are enclosed corridors. There is no open work area. All rooms surrounding the space are enclosed rooms.
  10. Vlab20

    Corridor rating (IBC 2018)

    I have a small medical clinic space, B-Business occupancy. 1-story, non-sprinklered building. I have the space set up like a racetrack...offices and exam rooms- around the perimeter, supports spaces in the middle and an exit at the west end and an exit in the northeast corner of course connected...
  11. Vlab20

    Sprinklered Type IIB building unsprinklered detached canopy

    Designing a 1-story Type 2B building will be fully sprinklered NFPA 13 with a detached canopy. The Canopy will be steel columns with Heavy Timber beams and 3" thick wood decking. We want the canopy to be unsprinklered. Some of our fellow architects are stating that the canopy must be...
  12. Vlab20

    Elevator required or not

    yep! Thanks
  13. Vlab20

    Elevator required or not

    mtlogcabin...thanks. I agree and the State just sent me a clarification and agreed as well. No elevator required. THANK YOU ALL.
  14. Vlab20

    Elevator required or not

    We are in Wisconsin. I just got a clarification from the State and they said that the lower level does not need to be accessible.
  15. Vlab20

    Elevator required or not

    But the code does differentiate between groups of people. They allow mechanical spaces to be non-accessible, they allow certain size mezzanine spaces to be non-accessible, air traffic control towers, etc. So the code does allow for some non-accessible spaces, it appears to apply to certain size...
  16. Vlab20

    Elevator required or not

    Thanks Sleepy...I will review this! Vlab
  17. Vlab20

    Elevator required or not

    Hi Tim. We are Wisconsin which uses IBC 2015, so we reference Chapter 11 of IBC that sets the requirements for accessibility for a building. From there we would reference ANSI A117.1 2009 edition for the specifics of the requirement. In the case of 1104.4 and the exception they are allowing a...
  18. Vlab20

    Elevator required or not

    Are your thoughts from previous projects or from clarifications that IBC has issued?
  19. Vlab20

    Elevator required or not

    Only because IBC code allows for spaces under 3000 sf to not require accessibility... 1104.4 Multistory buildings and facilities. At least one accessible route shall connect each accessible story and mezzanine in multilevel buildings and facilities. Exceptions: 1. An accessible route is not...
  20. Vlab20

    Elevator required or not

    I would argue that billing or processing insurance has nothing to do with a patients teeth/health care. And I point to the logic that the codes have set up when doing a hospital or an ambulatory care facility. The hospital is an extreme example but the level of safety for a hospital is very high...
  21. Vlab20

    Elevator required or not

    IBC 2015 applies. I have an existing 1444 sf first story with a 1444 sf basement. The existing two levels are connected by a stair. B-occupancy / dental clinic Client wants to double the size of the first floor and of the basement. So the first floor will become 2888 sf and the basement will be...
  22. Vlab20

    2 story open space or Atrium

    I am hoping Smokeguard will be acceptable due to cost but McKeon has more testing going for it. Thanks.
  23. Vlab20

    2 story open space or Atrium

    I'm familiar with the horizontal sliding Won-Door. The McKeon and Smokeguard product runs horizontally but in the plane of the floor. Both say they are 2-hour rated and would meet 712.1.3.2 Automatic Shutters. But this section does not provide testing standards.
  24. Vlab20

    2 story open space or Atrium

    Trying to avoid a vertical shutter such as Won-Door. The idea is to provide a Smokeguard M3000 horizontal shutter or a McKeon horizontal shutter across the opening to basically control the smoke on floor 1 and 2 and then separately on floors 3 and 4. Trying to meet the exception in IBC 2015...
  25. Vlab20

    2 story open space or Atrium

    IBC 2015 4 story office building Type 2A (1-hour rated floors) 8' x 30' Opening in floors 2, 3 and 4 glass handrail around the openings I am looking at a horizontal shutter that will close the opening between floors 2 and 3 when smoke/fire alarm sounds. The horizontal shutter would affectively...
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