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CT group b medical

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This is from the CT 2005 IBC

304.2 Group B medical occupancies.

In addition to the requirements of this code for Group B occupancies, the provisions of Section 420 shall apply to Group B medical and dental occupancies that provide services or treatment for four or more patients who may simultaneously be rendered incapable of taking action for self-preservation under emergency conditions. This occupancy shall include, but not be limited to, the following:

Outpatient clinics with general anesthesia or life-support equipment;

Dental centers providing treatment under general anesthesia;

One-day surgical centers;

Physician’s offices providing treatment under general anesthesia.

Facilities such as the above that do not provide general anesthesia or life-support equipment simultaneously to four or more patients shall be classified as Group B occupancies and shall not be subject to the special provisions of Section 420.

The office is an oral surgeon, it will have 6 Operatories and 4 recovery rooms, 2 doctors working in the office, they have stated that they do not have 4 people under at 1 time. With that said I believe that the possibility of having 6 people under based on rooms makes this applicable, but the criteria is kind of vague. In the first sentence they say “for four or more patients who may simultaneously be rendered incapable of taking action for self-preservation under emergency conditions,” but in the exception at the end they say “Facilities such as the above that do not provide general anesthesia or life-support equipment simultaneously to four or more patients shall be classified as Group B occupancies and shall not be subject to the special provisions of Section 420”

What do you guys think?

I’m not trying to get around it I just want to make sure I am using the right occupancy, or maybe I’m reading too much into this. Anyway I would appreciate your opinions
 
Get a letter signed by owner of building, leaseholder, doctor, DP, etc...If they rotate OR's for cleaning and such I could see it (3 under only at a time)....But get some CYA papers....
 
"""Facilities such as the above that do not provide general anesthesia or life-support equipment simultaneously to four or more patients shall be classified as Group B occupancies and shall not be subject to the special provisions of Section 420. """"

""""the provisions of Section 420 shall apply to Group B medical and dental occupancies that provide services or treatment for four or more patients who may simultaneously be rendered incapable of taking action for self-preservation under emergency conditions"""

two ways to look at it

1. have the doctors write a letter stating the inententions, and see if the ahj will accpet that.

2. the six rooms could be used for procedures that do not require knocking someone out

Jus a matter of what the ahj will accept?????
 
They typically are not that shady, calling them liars ahead of time never really goes well...Document, document, document, and maybe on a CO, see how many anesthesia rigs they have.... :) And then have the FM check on his inspections in the future...
 
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