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Egress path - travel up one story to exit down

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Luis Almeida

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Does anyone know if there is an issue in egress path to travel up one story (in rated enclosed stairway) from a roof terrace to reach the fire exist stair down and out of R2 building in NYC? Thanks!
 
Interesting question

Seems like the answer might be no.

What is the occupant load of the roof terrace??

What is the stair serving at the level you go up to?
 
It does sound strange, but as long as you stay in a rated exit enclosure it should be compliant....But I don't know anything about NYC specifically...
 
It is a roof terrace attached to R2 dwelling on >125 ft building height. Main egress through dwelling second egress will be enclosed bulkhead stair up to roof and connected to fire stair... I'm confused by BC1004.8 Outdoor areas -- "similar spaces" feels like it would not include roof terraces? Exception 2 excludes means of egress from R2 outdoor spaces, but i'm not banking on that. I'm following 1021.1 Exits from stories. All spaces within each story shall have access to the minimum number of approved independent exits as specified in Table 1021.1 based on the occupant load of such story. For the purposes of this chapter, occupied roofs shall be provided with exits as required for stories.
 
Is this new or existing building

If existing are you trying to add this feature?


So who would have access to this area??

Only the tenant the roof is attached to or others??

What is the occupant load

Trying to figure out why the need??
 
1- It is an existing building.
2- Yes, we are trying to resolve egress problem by adding this feature.
3- Only one tenant on the floor and only one tenant access.
4- 60 Occupants based on 200 sf gross for floor
 
So just to clairify

Only one tenant can grant access to this area?

So kind of part or accessory to the tenants unit??
 
Sorry one more

Hotel or apartment ??

Either way seems like it is part of one unit, that is controlled by the tenant.

So the apartment has code compliant exit, that should handle the roof?
 
There is nothing that says an exit can't go up....(underground buildings or basement egress)...so there is nothing that says it can't go up and down...Once you are in the exit, travel distance stops, so it could be several hundred feet long of up and down and it COULD be compliant....Building it correctly, especially in retrofit, may prove difficult.
 
steveray said:
There is nothing that says an exit can't go up....(underground buildings or basement egress)...so there is nothing that says it can't go up and down...Once you are in the exit, travel distance stops, so it could be several hundred feet long of up and down and it COULD be compliant....Building it correctly, especially in retrofit, may prove difficult.
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Is the exit required

If this is one unit of an apartment building and tenant controls who has access??
 
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