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Green Checklist

conarb

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I've been working all morning on Green Ordinance Checklist, it's a macro-enabled Excel spreadsheet but I converted it to a PDF so you inspectors can see what we are going through. Just think, you inspectors are going to be enforcing this totalitarian Bull****, are we Nazis yet?

Packsaddle help, how could this have happened in this country?
 
i think I'm going to hurl!
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ConArb,

"The codes have become a facade. They are adopting new codes faster than anyone who's responsible for enforcing them can learn what's in them."

You can quote me on that, :)

Uncle Bob
 
Bob:

I bought my first code book in 1957 when an inspector opened one up, I asked about it and he told me that I could drive to Stacey's Bookstore in San Francisco and buy one, it was about ¾" thick. Over the years the UBC just evolved and it was easy to keep up, then the 1997 UBC was a huge step in complexity on earthquake provisions, so huge that most AHJs refused to adopt it, so the state created the 1998 CBC to force the entire state on the 1997 UBC. Now they went to the IBC in the 2007 edition, a completely different code, and now they are going to change again by adopting the IRC and add most of the previous provisions of the older codes, both the UBC and IBC, nobody even knows what we are going to get until it's published. Meanwhile we have been hit by the Energy Code, and now the Green Code.

When they told us they were going to I Codes they said it was because they were "performance codes", what they meant by performance codes was codes based upon the so-called performance of the materials and methods instead of prescription produced by knowledgeable professionals in the code business, actually it was a gift to the "stakeholders" to get their materials and methods approved, and in the case of some things, like fire sprinklers, actually get them mandated.

So we have a game now where everybody wants his product in the code for you to enforce, or special interest groups like environmentalists want their agenda mandated, and environmentalism is the other face of the socialism coin. As we plunge headlong into socialism and fascism they are making Google take the Hitler videos down, supposedly for copyright infringement, I doubt that, I think the government wants them down. Somebody made another Hitler video of Hitler objecting to his videos being taken down, he actually does a pretty good job explaining it, better

because it will certainly be taken down soon.
 
Ya'll have a nice weekend,

Uncle Bob
 
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More Green Fraud:

: Originally Posted by Originally published in The Economist

California's 'Zero Energy House' is actually massive fossil hog

Alert Print Post comment 'Zenergy' eco-home gets award from local senator anyway

In startling enviro-technology news, it has been reported that an ordinary 1950s house in California has been given a "green renovation" which has apparently made it a "Zero Energy House" and won its builders an award from the state government.

In other words the Californian prototype house can supply all the energy it needs over time through its own renewable microgeneration equipment - if it uses external electricity supplies such as grid power at times, it compensates for this by providing surplus juice of its own back to the grid at others.

The Zenergy House is a 1950’s [sic] remodel that delivers high on sustainability and low on energy use — net zero to be exact — thanks to the use of super-efficient green building strategies and solar panels on the roof ... The home is tricked out from head to toe with sustainable features and products, including a lot of the furnishings and accessories.

We averaged 85 Therms a month from December '09 through march 2010 (our heating season in LA). We are not including the use of natural gas or water into our "Zero Energy" calculations. The "Zero Energy" refers to electrical use only.

Eighty-five therms is the same as 2491 kilowatt-hours per month. A normal household in the Western USA, according to the US government, uses 77 million British Thermal Units annually - which is the same as 1881 kilowatt-hours per month. The Zenergy house uses a third more energy than the regional household average, and one may note that by American standards it is by no means large (3 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms).

Not only is the house not zero-net-energy, it actually seems to be something of a power hog as American houses go.

REAS are being more than a bit cheeky with their use of words here, but they don't make any serious effort to obscure the real nature of the "Zenergy" project - which is no more than massively overhyped marketing for new heating installations, AC units, loft insulation and so on.

It is more than a little startling, though, that the energy-hog house was given an "Environmental Sustainability Award" by the California state senate - apparently presented in person by Senator Fran Pavley, who represents the 23rd district (parts of Los Angeles and Ventura counties) in Sacramento.

And how could the "green design" advertorial newshawks of Inhabitat get it so wrong, too?¹
Now for all you easterners (and even Southerners) who say that my energy bills in my non-green home are not relevant because of my moderate climate, this home in Southern California is in a similar moderate climate.

They are talking electrical use and converted the Kwh to Therms for some reason, the house used 2491 Kwh of electricity with no information of Therms used in natural gas consumption,

I just checked my last month's bill and I used 446 Kwh ($54.08) in electricity and 48 Therms ($43.79) in gas consumption, I roughly calculate that about half my gas is used in hot water heating judging from gas consumption during months that the heater doesn't run.

Using their numbers I use 493 Kwh in March for all utility consumption, they use 2491 Kwh for electricity only, so I use 19.79% of the energy that the "Green House" uses without even counting their heating and cooling charges but counting mine! I'd love to know what their heating and cooling charges actually are.

It's interesting that Green Fraud is being picked up across the pond, it's a fraud in profiteers utilizing it for "greewashing", it's a fraud because it is sealing homes up to rot them out, it's a fraud because it's sealing house up and installing toxic materials in them making people sick, probably even giving people cancer and killing them, and it's a fraud because green homes consume more energy than non-green homes, in the article 33% more than average non-green homes, in my case 505.3% more without even counting space heating, cooling, and water heating.

BTW, if you want to know how I do it, it's simple, I properly engineer triple pane windows, I don't even have insulation in half my walls, but most energy loss is through the windos, mine have an air-leakage of 0.002 CFM, the average dual pane window today leaks at 0.20 CFM, 100 times more.

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¹ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04...e_not_so_much/

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BTW, that link to the "Green" home that consumes so much more energy was set to me by a customer, his comments:

....what's truly staggering to me is how absolutely blatant they are in the fraud (and how successful they have been doing it). I can understand the motivation (money, always money), but I absolutely cannot understand how everyone is letting them get away with it! Sickening (and literally in the cases where toxic "green" materials are being used).
His comment "I absolutely cannot understand how everyone is letting them get away with it", I guess we can answer, after Minneapolis we all saw how things get into the codes.
 
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