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Restroom Facilities in Storage Building

Discussion in 'Commercial Plumbing Codes' started by MetalBuildingGuy, Jul 25, 2018.

  1. MetalBuildingGuy

    MetalBuildingGuy Registered User

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    Florida Building Code 6th Edition Plumbing (2017)

    I have an existing 10,000 SF storage building that includes a 2,000 office area and 8,000 SF for storage. Inside the office I have men's and women's restrooms of adequate size. I want to build another 4,000 SF storage building on the same property about 200' away to storage more equipment. The occupancy of the new building is group S-1. The local building official is requesting that I provide "Restroom Facilities" in the new building based on the S-1 occupancy and section 403 and the table 403.1 that states I must have one restroom and one service sink.

    I'm trying to find an exemption that would allow me to build this storage building without having to build a restroom and install a service sink since I already have them in the existing main building on the same site.

    Thanks.
     
  2. mtlogcabin

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    See if the Fl building code has similar language


    [P] 2902.3.2 Location of toilet facilities in occupancies other than malls.
    In occupancies other than covered and open mall buildings, the required public and employee toilet facilities shall be located not more than one story above or below the space required to be provided with toilet facilities, and the path of travel to such facilities shall not exceed a distance of 500 feet (152 m).

    Exception: The location and maximum travel distances to required employee facilities in factory and industrial occupancies are permitted to exceed that required by this section, provided that the location and maximum travel distance are approved.
     
  3. mark handler

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    Florida Plumbing Code section 403.3.3
    Location of toilet facilities in occupancies other than malls



    In occupancies other than covered and open mall buildings, the required public and employee toilet facilities shall be located not more than one story above or below the space required to be provided with toilet facilities, and the path of travel to such facilities shall not exceed a distance of 500 feet (152 m).

    Exception: The location and maximum distances of travel to required employee facilities in factory and industrial occupancies are permitted to exceed that required by this section, provided that the location and maximum distance of travel are approved.
     
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  4. fatboy

    fatboy Administrator

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    I was going to throw out the 500 feet also.........hit up the BOA?
     
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  5. MetalBuildingGuy

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    Thanks everyone and I agree with this exemption.

    When I mentioned it over the phone to the plumbing reviewer (not the building official) he commented that he was interpreting it as "in the same building". However the code clearly does not say it must be in the same building and only mentions 500'. Furthermore this new building will not be accessible to the public therefore I don't believe the path of travel will need to be compliant with the accessibility code but could be if it must.
     
  6. steveray

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    Accessibility is not limited to just "public"....And this is not in the accessibility code or standard, sections cited are from the building and plumbing codes...
     
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  7. MetalBuildingGuy

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    Good point.

    I was reading 403.3 & 403.3.1 and assuming the code was stating that access to public toilet facilities must meet the accessibility code. The approximate 200' travel distance (measured from the farthest end of the proposed new building) is across flat concrete so I'll make sure the civil engineer is aware and doesn't set the FFE of the new building too high causing a slope issue when exiting the new building.
     
  8. JCraver

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    Why is it an S-1? Does it need to be heated/cooled, and are you going to have any space other than storage space in there (office, breakroom, etc)? If not, can't you call it a U, hang a couple lights, and be done?
     
  9. north star

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    $ ~ $

    IMO, ...the Florida BO is applying Table 403.1 [ `17 FPC ]
    because of the Occ. Load of the new 4,000 sq. ft. bldg......This
    would be 8 Occupants......I believe that the BO is within their
    correct interpretation to require the additional plbg. fixtures.

    That said, ...what is the current plbg. fixture count in the
    existing Restrooms ?......Will those existing plbg. fixtures
    accommodate 8 additional Occupants ?


    "If" the existing plbg. fixtures will accommodate 8 additional
    occupants; according to the currently adopted Plumbing Code,
    I would recommend that you create a spreadsheet with the
    total count of the existing plbg. fixtures, ...cite the applicable
    Code Sections & Tables in it, ...call the local BO and invite them

    to visit the existing Restrooms for a visual verification of your
    case \ position......."IF" the existing plbg. fixtures will not
    accommodate 8 additional Occupants; according to the currently
    adopted Plumbing Code, what is your position ?.......Have you
    performed the calculations & checked them against the currently
    adopted Plumbing Code ?



    $ ~ $
     
  10. RJJ

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    It is my understanding that all bathrooms must be accessible if they are provided. If the bathroom meets the 500 ' rule I would assume you are fine.
     

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