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Restrooms Required

Discussion in 'Plumbing Codes' started by Oscar, Oct 24, 2018.

  1. Oscar

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    I posted a similar thread to this but decided to make a new one just so it wouldn't get missed. I am using 2014 NYCPC for calculating restrooms. I have a space roughly 2,100 sq.ft. that is being split in 2 for 2 separate tenants - same occupancy use M. They will each have their own back of house but we'd like to have the least amount of restrooms as possible, we plan to have the restroom shared between the two tenants for employee use.

    403.3 Required employee and public toilet facilities.
    Employees shall be provided with toilet facilities in all occupancies. The number of plumbing fixtures located within the required employee toilet facilities shall be provided in accordance with Section PC 403 for all employees. Customers, patrons and visitors shall be provided with public toilet facilities in structures and tenant spaces intended for public utilization. The number of plumbing fixtures located within the required public toilet facilities shall be provided in accordance with Section PC 403 for all customers, patrons and visitors. Employee and public toilet facilities may be separate or combined. Where combined facilities are provided, the number of plumbing fixtures shall be in accordance with Section PC 403 for all users.
    Exception:
    Public utilization of toilet facilities shall not be required for:
    1. Food service establishments, as defined in Section 81.03 of the New York City Health Code, with a seating capacity of less than 20, provided such establishments are less than 10,000 square feet (929 m2).
    2.Establishments less than 10,000 square feet (929 m2) classified as Occupancy Group B or M pursuant to Sections 304.1 and3 09.1 of the New York City Building Code, respectively, provided however that this exception shall not apply to a building or nonaccessory tenant space used for assembly purposes by fewer than 75 persons and classified as Group B occupancy in accordance with Section 303.1, Exception 2 of the
    New York City Building Code.

    403.2 Separate facilities.
    Where plumbing fixtures are required, separate facilities shall be provided for each sex.
    Exceptions:
    1. Separate facilities shall not be required for dwelling units and sleeping units.
    2. In structures or tenant spaces where combined employee and public toilet facilities are provided in accordance with Section 403.3, separate facilities shall not be required where the total number of employees, customers, patrons and visitors is 30 or fewer.
    3. In structures or tenant spaces where required toilet facilities for only employee use are provided in accordance with Section 403.3, separate facilities shall not be required where the total number of employees is 30 or fewer.
    4. In structures or tenant spaces where required toilet facilities for only public use are provided in accordance with Section 403.3, separate facilities shall not be required where the total number of customers, patrons and visitors is 30 or fewer.


    Table 403.1 says 1 per 500 Water Closets and 1 per 750 lavatories for occupancy M.



    Am I reading this correctly and saying since we are an establishment less than 10,000sq.ft. under occupancy M, as long as our total employees are 30 or fewer we can provide just 1 restroom?
     
  2. ADAguy

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    Item (2) appears to say that as long as it is for employees only.
    What are you providing for patrons?
     
  3. Oscar

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    Not required. Since we are 2,100 < 10,000 occupancy M - if I'm reading it correctly from Section 403.3 exception 2.
     
  4. HForester

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    Those NY code modifications are difficult to comprehend.
     
  5. Oscar

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    ...Still rereading and still don't comprehend it.
     
  6. ADAguy

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    "What" specifically don't you understand?
     
  7. Oscar

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    Just want to make sure I can place 1 restroom and be ok. From your expertise is this what most of you are interpreting this?
     
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    Does local Health Department agree?
     

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