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Costa Mesa considers apartment garage ban after fire death

By CINDY CARCAMO

2011-04-11 08:13:48

COSTA MESA, CA – The death of a 17-year-old after a garage fire is leading Costa Mesa officials to consider several strategies to stop residents from converting their garages into living spaces.

On Monday night, the Costa Mesa Planning Commission will consider banning garages from newly constructed apartment complexes, in addition to other strategies that would likely affect many of the more than 700 apartment complexes already in the city, according to a staff report.

The move follows the February fire that led to the death of Luke Upton, who was pulled from a burning garage during a Costa Mesa apartment fire. Officials believe the fire began in a garage that had been converted to a living space before it spread to nearby rooms.

The commissioners are scheduled to consider the following strategies:

•Ban garages – allowing only carports – in new apartment construction. Some apartment complexes of a certain size would be exempt.

•Prohibit the conversion of carports into garages at existing apartments.

•Ban the installation of an access door from the interior of an apartment that directly leads to a garage.

•Publish and distribute flyers in English and Spanish, detailing the danger of garages being used as living areas.

•Mandate a self-certification program that would apply to complexes that have three to 16 units.

The program would mandate that the property owner submit a form annually that certifies that the apartment garages are being used and maintained in compliance with city law.

Apartment owners would also have to pay an administrative fee that would be calculate and collected on a per-unit basis. The fees would go to pay for code enforcement staff.

http://www.ocregister.com/news/apartment-295821-garages-garage.html?nstrack=sid:1378692%7Cmet:102300%7Ccat:0%7Corder:3&cb=1302551402
 
In other news...

Two policemen were injured and the occupant of a residence was killed in an early day fire at a suspected meth lab in a Costa Mesa residence.

Officials believe the fire began in a bedroom that had been converted to a meth lab before it spread to nearby rooms.

The commissioners are scheduled to consider the following strategies:

  • Ban enclosed bedrooms, allowing people to habitate under canopies only
  • Prohibit the conversion of bedrooms into meth labs
  • Ban the installation of a door in a bedroom
  • Publish and distribute flyers on the dangers of cooking meth
  • Mandate a self certification program for all one- and two-family dwellings
The program would mandate that the property owner submit a form annually that certifies that the bedrooms are being used and maintained in compliance with city law.

Bedroom owners would also have to pay an administrative fee that would be calculate and collected on a per-bedroom basis. The fees would go to pay for code enforcement staff.

...not to make light of this individual's death.. but the laws are already there. More laws won't make anything better. More enforcement, maybe. Are multiple dwellings mandated to be inspected in CA?
 
Regulating stupid is easy, fixing stupid on the other hand...

I agree with Tim, better enforcement is the answer. It was a bit more of a fire risk as a garage, no?
 
Mark, Based on the definition you provide I must respectfully disagree. All we can do with stupid is control, maintain or supervise it. That's what Property Maintenance is all about.

If we could fix it we wouldn't have to regulate it.
 
JBI said:
Mark, Based on the definition you provide I must respectfully disagree. All we can do with stupid is control, maintain or supervise it. That's what Property Maintenance is all about. If we could fix it we wouldn't have to regulate it.
I also respectfully disagree

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control, maintain or supervise this....

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or this?
 
mark handler said:
reg·u·late/ˈregyəˌlāt/Verb1. Control or maintain or supervise

Can't regulate stupid
I don't know, sometimes government seems pretty efficient insofar as maintaining stupidity goes.
 
Oh my..........that is just too funny..........good thing this isn't the morning, would have had a coffee coated screen for sure.
 
mark handler said:
I also respectfully disagree
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control, maintain or supervise this....

Forklift_Accident_With_Bomb.jpg


or this?
There are two types of cluster in this post. One is a munition. The other rhymes with "duck".
 
Does anybody have the photos of the inflatable swimming pool inside the second floor apartment? They were taken by a BI and posted on the old forum.

There are photos on the web of 'the guetto swimming pool'; these photos were not those.
 
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