Section 1108.2.8.1 in the 2006 IBC

[globe trekker]

Greetings to all!

I have an existing bldg. that is changing from a "B" occ. group to an "A-2"

occ. group.

In regard to the code section that I posted, does the 5% of required Accessible

Dining Surfaces have to be shown on the construction plans, or is the owner

responsible for providing such when the customers come in?

QUESTION # 2: Regarding the actual number of Accessible Dining Surfaces

to be provided, ..this section is confusing to me. Is the minimum number

"1", or is it the 5% of the total?

Thanks for your input!

FWIW, this project is not is California!

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[RLGA]

It states where dining surfaces are provided, so, for building code purposes, if fixed tables or counters are shown on the drawings and no moveable tables are shown, then 5% of the fixed surfaces shown should provide the accessible spaces. If all dining surfaces are shown--fixed and moveable--than 5% of those surfaces should be accessible spaces. The building official may require that all dining surfaces, whether fixed or moveable, be shown on the drawings. Regardless, know that the 2010 ADA Standards has the same requirement, so whether the drawings show the dining surfaces or not, the owner will eventually be responsible for providing the required percentage of accessible spaces.

As to your second question, the minimum is one accessible space, so when there is less than 20 seats, at least one accessible space is required. For over 20 seats, then the 2010 ADA Standards, per Section 104.2, requires that fractions be rounded up to the next whole number. So 21 dinings surfaces would require two accessible spaces.

 

[steveray]

I ask for it on the drawings, I tell them we can fight it at permit or C of O......

 

[kenotten]

Dining Surfaces - Fixed and non-fixed

It states where dining surfaces are provided, so, for building code purposes, if fixed tables or counters are shown on the drawings and no moveable tables are shown, then 5% of the fixed surfaces shown should provide the accessible spaces. If all dining surfaces are shown--fixed and moveable--than 5% of those surfaces should be accessible spaces. The building official may require that all dining surfaces, whether fixed or moveable, be shown on the drawings. Regardless, know that the 2010 ADA Standards has the same requirement, so whether the drawings show the dining surfaces or not, the owner will eventually be responsible for providing the required percentage of accessible spaces.As to your second question, the minimum is one accessible space, so when there is less than 20 seats, at least one accessible space is required. For over 20 seats, then the 2010 ADA Standards, per Section 104.2, requires that fractions be rounded up to the next whole number. So 21 dinings surfaces would require two accessible spaces.

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You make a great point of distinction. For purposes of complying with the ADA Standards (either version of ADAAG, 1991 or 2004), the requirements only apply to the fixed or built-in seating and standing spaces at dining surfaces. As we know, the ADA "Standards" include the ADAAG and their associated regulations (28 CFR Parts 35 and 36). It is actually in the regs that one finds this limitation for fixed or built in elements. It is also in the regs, however, that one finds the requirement for equal access. Your comment, "if all dining surfaces are shown -- fixed and moveable -- then 5% of all those surfaces should be accessible" seems to follow this logic, but my question is how one can enforce a requirement like the one for 5% of fixed spaces to the dining surfaces that are not fixed if the regulations don't provide a specific percentage?