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Stairwell Landing Signs

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Kat Gilland

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HI! New member. I am jut getting started with some of the IBC signs for the university and I have run into questions already. I have stairwells in a building that have exits on that level but stairwell exits are another landing down (not the next level but halfway there) Should they still say exit this level? Do they get the star pictogram? There is also a stairwell that has no exterior exit. Does that still say exit this level if the nearest exit is on the same level but through the building?
 
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Did not know i would need a PHD for your question.

Need to look at the book
 
Kat Gilland said:
HI! New member. I am jut getting started with some of the IBC signs for the university and I have run into questions already. I have stairwells in a building that have exits on that level but stairwell exits are another landing down (not the next level but halfway there) Should they still say exit this level? Do they get the star pictogram? There is also a stairwell that has no exterior exit. Does that still say exit this level if the nearest exit is on the same level but through the building?
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Ok thinking and I think I have seen it before

Label the landing down something like “7 A”

Not sure what the star pictographs is?


On the last question I would say yes, indicate you can get out of the stairwell at that level.
That is how it was originally designed .
 
The "exit" sign should be at the level of exit discharge even if it reenters the building as allowed in IBC 1027. But I am not sure I understand the question fully.
 
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I need to direct people already in the stairwell down another landing to the exterior exit but it's not the next floor. Is that the same level or should it say "Exit Next Landing Down" or something similar. there are exits close to the stairwells once you pass back into the building, but the closest is in the stairwell in this case. You can see them from the landing where the sign will be, but you do have to continue down another few steps.
 
Kat Gilland said:
I need to direct people already in the stairwell down another landing to the exterior exit but it's not the next floor. Is that the same level or should it say "Exit Next Landing Down" or something similar. there are exits close to the stairwells once you pass back into the building, but the closest is in the stairwell in this case. You can see them from the landing where the sign will be, but you do have to continue down another few steps.
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I am thinking if you are on 7,

Sign says exit on 6 A where the exterior door is

Than the next actual floor level is 6.
 
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Kat Gilland,

Whichever Bldg. Code edition you are using, please refer to
Section 1013 - Exit Signs......This section provides guidance
on where the Exit Signs are required........Of course, you can
always add more and different types of signage to increase
awareness of the actual egress doors and pathways.

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The code uses the term level for floor (level) and levels between floors. For example an exit at this floor and exit at the next level.
Where we have this situation in accordance with the provisions for discharge identification where a barrier may or may not be provided in existing stairwell to prevent persons from unintentionally continuing into levels below should have directional exit signs.
Reference 1023.8 (2015) or 1022 (2012).
 
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Francis Vineyard said:
The code uses the term level for floor (level) and levels between floors. For example an exit at this floor and exit at the next level.
Where we have this situation in accordance with the provisions for discharge identification where a barrier may or may not be provided in existing stairwell to prevent persons from unintentionally continuing into levels below should have directional exit signs.
Reference 1023.8 (2015) or 1022 (2012).
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That's what I was thinking. As the exit is a further landing (the stairwell between floors has turns so multiple landings) so because the exit is between 2 floors landing might be the clearest description.
 
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I was looking for any statement as to the use of abbreviations. I kinda think that's a no but I need to know for sure. Are abbreviations allowed and if so are there standard ones listed?
 
Kat Gilland said:
I was looking for any statement as to the use of abbreviations. I kinda think that's a no but I need to know for sure. Are abbreviations allowed and if so are there standard ones listed?
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The code books can not puteverything that might come up, in the book.

Intent and common sense should come into play.

I feel the level should be identified.

As in help I am at 7 A, come get me
 
6). The floor level number must be in the middle of the sign, and be a minimum 5 inches tall. Mezzanine levels must have the letter ‘M’ (or other appropriate identification letter) preceding the floor number, and basements must have the the letter ‘B’ (or other appropriate identification letter) preceding the floor level number


http://keyeslifesafety.com/stairwell-signage/
 
This isn't unusual in pre-ADA buildings (or buildings on hillsides) with a raised first floor and the exit on a landing between the basement and first floor.

It would probably be best to make the sign a little larger and say "Exit one landing down" without abbreviations.
 
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