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Why Pennsylvania Needs Statewide Licensing of Contractors

Discussion in 'Contractor Talk' started by jar546, Nov 30, 2019.

  1. jar546

    jar546 *****istrator

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    Pennsylvania does not have any competency based statewide licensing of building contractors, none of the trades whatsoever.
    In Pennsylvania, if you just pay a $50 fee to the state and get an insurance policy (most are under $400) you can wake up in the morning and decide you are a contractor, no experience necessary. There are only a few cities that have any sort of competency based licensing and the Pennsylvania contractor registration law prohibits any municipalities from requiring competency based licensing if they did not already have a program prior to the contractor registration law.
    Here are some examples of the great work performed for customers by Pennsylvania contractors:

    Here you see the great double trap (an S and P trap all in one) done by quality Pennsylvania plumbers.
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    This Pennsylvania contractor apparently is not aware of wind load requirements and instead just used whatever scraps of plywood he had on this job that was discovered without a permit.
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    This Pennsylvania general contractor must not know about the 4" rule for step risers. I wonder what else he did not know if we were able to take a closer look at this newly installed deck.
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    Gotta love that vent
     
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  5. jar546

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    This one takes 2 photos. You can pick out all of the defects for yourself on this poorly constructed and supported stairs and landing done by a Pennsylvania contractor.
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    This was a brand-new house in the Poconos that had the windows improperly installed, no house-wrap and no flashing around the windows. On top of all this, the Pennsylvania homebuilder who did the work passed inspections by a Pennsylvania building inspector. The Pennsylvania legislators still don't think they need statewide licensing of contractors. You need a state license to cut hair but not build a house. You've got a friend in Pennsylvania.
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    When you use a ridge board instead of a ridge beam and think you are going to have a great looking cathedral ceiling but instead have an unsafe, sagging structure. This is the result of not having any training or competency based licensing of contractors in Pennsylvania.
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    When you screw up the foundation but still want to have a poured slab on the front porch and think it is OK to pour concrete against plywood on the outside of the house. This is a fine example of a mistake by the foundation contractor and the homebuilder in Pennsylvania.
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    A lack of competency based licensing of contractors in Pennsylvania resulted in this pathetic plumbing installation through the studs of a bearing wall between the garage and interior of this new home. Pennsylvania builders pride.
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    They inspect to code minimums; but don't require licences (go figure). Are inspectors tested and certified?
    Imagine what property insurance policies must cost?
    Lot of defect attorneys in Penn?
     
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    In PA to be an inspector, you just need to pass the ICC exam for the category you are in. Since there is no statewide licensing of contractors, there is no real way to verify experience before becoming an inspector.
     
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    I don't know what you are talking about....In post 9, you need to be a really good plumber to bore that large of a hole that close to the edge of a stud without blowing it apart.....Or maybe just have good sharp holesaws...
     
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    You've got a friend in Pennsylvania.

    I thought the new slogan was: "Pennsylvania, Pursue your Happiness!"
     
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    Maybe: "Pennsylvania, Pursue your Certificate!"

    Would be better?
     
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    Steve ... look closely at the stud on the left, the one closer to the T. Or Y, whatever. Anyway ... do you see two concentric marks on the wood? Like maybe the holehawg bound up and spun the drill motor and the plumbers arm?
     
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    What weird thing is going on with the nails at the stud to top plate?
     
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    Bad toe nailing....
     
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    That is a pretty good "how much can be wrong in one picture" picture.....
     
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