A Newbie Seeking Assistance

[Ez2Wire]

This is my first post on this forum, so please be gentle.

While I’m new here, I’m not a virgin. I’ve been trolling this site, off and on, as a guest for quite a while. I appreciate the respectful discourse and helpful nature of the professionals on this forum. However, my real motivation for engaging now is not purely altruistic.

I need help with a unique and challenging business venture that exceeds my expertise and skill sets. I need to build a team of electrical industry professionals to help validate, test, and advance my patented concept. I need individuals who can ascertain and help facilitate the necessary NEC TIAs that will be required to advance this technology shift.

I don’t mean to be elusive in my venture description, but I respect the rules of this forum and don’t want to get bounced on my first post.

First Question…

Is it inappropriate for me to solicit this type of assistance on the forum? Assistance that could lead to a compensated position within our start-up business?

Second…

Would it be inappropriate to post a link to a brief (5-minute) introduction video I’m hosting on Vimeo?
Once again... I'm doing this to see if any forum members would be interested in joining my team.

 

[Joe.B]

@jar546

 

[ICE]

Welcome. Perhaps the forum owner is best suited to make that decision. I for one would not be opposed however, if as you say that you have been here for a while, you know that I am an outlier. Curious I am. I would appreciate watching your Vimeo and you can send me a direct message with a link.

 

[ICE]

I watched the video and I am impressed... and that's not so easy to do. They even had a familiar voice over guy from You-Tube shorts as the narrator. While there's a lot that I don't know about the product, it certainly seems to be a game changer. If the labor involved with wiring a building can be brought down and the cost of the material doesn't eat the savings this will take off. Even if it costs more overall, high end customers are going to want it. The elimination of some terminals is also a big plus as they cause fires so contractors and insurance companies will like this. Trimming out was never my favorite task and this eliminates that. Now if they could figure out how to eliminate Romex™.....

You might consider becoming a corporate sponsor if Jeff still offers those.

 

[jar546]

Honestly, I am apprehensive to engage for the following reasons:

• You participated from five different IP addresses today. Red Flag.
• Your email address is not an active website, so other than the video, you have no information for anyone to research.
• Your video uses AI audio.
• You used an AI chat bot to create the message you sent to me.
• You have never participated in any discussions on this forum where we can gauge you a bit better.

While I appreciate you reaching out to ask your questions, this sounds more like a self promotion setup. I don't know who you are, where you actually live, or what you do for a living, or what your true intention is other than potentially using this site as a promotional platform. Also you question about NEC TIA's does not make sense because that is not the purpose of TIAs. For these reasons I am not comfortable engaging with you.

 

[ICE]

It seems odd that they would purchase a sawhorse subscription and turn out to be goofy. The video seemed legit but they didn’t answer any of my questions.

 

[jar546]

It seems odd that they would purchase a sawhorse subscription and turn out to be goofy. The video seemed legit but they didn’t answer any of my questions.

He is legit. He reached out to me with a PM and after I responded, he then became a Sawhorse. My post above is a copy and paste of my response to his PM. In this case, I was wrong, even though all of what I wrote is typical of spammers always trying new tactics.

I would like to welcome @Ez2Wire to the forum and publicly apologize for any inconvenience. I am simply doing my job to protect the members. He has since shared all of his information, and he is very impressive with his experience. Welcome.

 

[steveray]

Cool....looking forward to maybe watching the video someday...

 

[ICE]

Cool....looking forward to maybe watching the video someday...

There’s a paywall.

 

[Ez2Wire]

Good morning everyone,

My name is Mark and I'm here, at the forum, because I need to build a competent high-energy team of professionals. I am currently a one man band trying to launch a revolutionary wiring methodology into a very sophisticated and well established industry. At this point in our infancy, pre-funding stage, I need help addressing the code and validation testing questions that I’m sure my venture capital targets will be asking.

I appreciate and respect the members of this forum as giving, hands-on, in the field professionals and I hope to learn, improve, and refine The Ez2Wire System through the jocular intercourse that I've witnessed on this august forum.

For those that are interested in hearing more about The Ez2Wire System…

Click Here For The Introduction Video

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For those that aren’t interested…

Click Here

 

[Ez2Wire]

He is legit. He reached out to me with a PM and after I responded, he then became a Sawhorse. My post above is a copy and paste of my response to his PM. In this case, I was wrong, even though all of what I wrote is typical of spammers always trying new tactics.

I would like to welcome @Ez2Wire to the forum and publicly apologize for any inconvenience. I am simply doing my job to protect the members. He has since shared all of his information, and he is very impressive with his experience. Welcome.

Thank You

 

[Ez2Wire]

Cool....looking forward to maybe watching the video someday...

Cool....looking forward to maybe watching the video someday...

The Link: https://vimeo.com/meyer3d/ez2wireintro

 

[Ez2Wire]

There’s a paywall.

What's a paywall?

 

[ICE]

What's a paywall?

That’s me screwing with steveray. And now you.

 

[ICE]

In addition to the questions that I asked in a pm, where do you plan to manufacture the product? In watching the video I see how easy the device is to remove. How secure is it against movement if a tight attachment plug is being pulled out?

 

[BN4537]

How do you plan to protect the installed box from the drywallers, painters, and potential texture sprayers?

Seems like you could design a line of removeable covers, or even make the front of the box have a perforated plastic knock-out that would be removed after those trades go through prior to first installation. You would want the cover to be recessed back a little so that the drywall guys can still have a surface for their RotoZip to bear on.

They do sell products for this purpose, but they are not used by the industry. If you include it in your design, it will be worth however much extra it costs in convenience alone, not to mention not having to replace these boxes when the painter sprays inside them, voiding the listing and coating the contacts.

Very interesting idea here, this would pretty much kill trim-out as we know it if implemented properly.

 

[Ez2Wire]

In addition to the questions that I asked in a pm, where do you plan to manufacture the product? In watching the video I see how easy the device is to remove. How secure is it against movement if a tight attachment plug is being pulled out?

Your Question… How secure is it against movement if a tight attachment plug is being pulled out?

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Good catch. The video was made with my early mock up devices that I 3D printed during my initial design phase. The screws shown in the video were cut just long enough to hold the switch head to the switch body for demonstration purposes.

Initially, Every real-world device will be secured by the standard two screws in use today. Obviously, we don’t want someone to pull the receptacle out of the wall when they yank on the vacuum cleaner cord.

I am working on another concept that would allow a snap & twist locking mechanism, but I don’t want to over-reach right now.

Suffice it to say, every device MUST be secured to the mounting box to meet code and common sense functionality.

 

[Ez2Wire]

In addition to the questions that I asked in a pm, where do you plan to manufacture the product? In watching the video I see how easy the device is to remove. How secure is it against movement if a tight attachment plug is being pulled out?

Your Question… Where do you plan to manufacture the product?

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Well I don’t want to give away the secret sauce, but what I can tell you is that the current marketing plan is to release the core patent as an “open source” technology (basically free) to entice all OEMs to Join The Electrical Revolution. Our goal is to partner with every OEM, because they already have established market segments and distribution channels.

We plan to monetize our operation off of our Ez2Wire trademark initiatives (linked to all “open source” agreements) and by launching a slew of follow-on patented devices and tools designed specifically for the Ez2Wire System.

 

[Ez2Wire]

How do you plan to protect the installed box from the drywallers, painters, and potential texture sprayers?

Seems like you could design a line of removeable covers, or even make the front of the box have a perforated plastic knock-out that would be removed after those trades go through prior to first installation. You would want the cover to be recessed back a little so that the drywall guys can still have a surface for their RotoZip to bear on.

They do sell products for this purpose, but they are not used by the industry. If you include it in your design, it will be worth however much extra it costs in convenience alone, not to mention not having to replace these boxes when the painter sprays inside them, voiding the listing and coating the contacts.

Very interesting idea here, this would pretty much kill trim-out as we know it if implemented properly.

Very astute question…
How do you plan to protect the installed box from the drywallers, painters, and potential texture sprayers?

Seems like you could design a line of removeable covers, or even make the front of the box have a perforated plastic knock-out that would be removed after those trades go through prior to first installation. You would want the cover to be recessed back a little so that the drywall guys can still have a surface for their RotoZip to bear on.

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Already done! One version of the cover is like the clear plastic soda covers you see when you by a fountain drink. A molded plastic lid that simply snaps in place. You can see through it for inspections (until it’s painted over) and it will even sport the electrical company’s name and logo. All wire entry ports will come with hard screw-in port covers that will be remove and discarded when the wires are installed. Not all wire entry ports are needed for every installation.

In addition, The box is specifically designed to slide fore and aft on its metal mounting bracket to allow it to slide out of the way for the sheetrock crew. The mounting bracket is designed to hold a short removable pin (basically a small color-coded nail) that will puncture the sheetrock when it is slammed into position. Thus providing a standardized starting point for the RotoZip, keeping installation clean and tight.

Also notice that the box has a raised shelf that circles the outside of the box inset from the front of the box. This holds a compressive insulation strip that will seal the box to the inside of the sheetrock when the box is pulled tight during final trim-out as the switches are screwed into position. Thus, sealing off air leaks around the box.

This insulation shelf is designed to “snap away” if the box needs to be converted to an “Old Work” box for renovation projects. I have designed an adapter to be used to secure the “Old Work” box to the sheetrock. More on this later.

 

[Ez2Wire]

That’s me screwing with steveray. And now you.

I’ll catch on. Give me time to spool-up, then it’s Game-on!

 

[MtnArch]

I’ll catch on. Give me time to spool-up, then it’s Game-on!

Uh, oh .. do NOT poke the ICE bear!

 

[Ez2Wire]

 

[Joe.B]

Would the installers be using the same commercially available cable (romex, mc, ac, etc.) to wire the house, or are you proposing a new type of wire?

I assume that there would be some communication feature since you're going to be promoting smart technology.

If you're utilizing existing wiring materials, would there be an extra conductor pulled for communication?
Or pull a three-conductor cable everywhere (like we do/did for smoke alarm communication)?
Or would your products all use wireless communication?

If you're proposing a new wiring material, would it include an extra communication wire? Maybe utilize the sheathing?

Or are you going to do something like some European (Swiss?) systems utilize where the conductors will carry communication signals at different frequencies?

I am very interested.

 

[ICE]

One version of the cover is like the clear plastic soda covers you see when you by a fountain drink. A molded plastic lid that simply snaps in place. You can see through it for inspections

It will need to be robust enough to withstand the construction environment. Given that there will not be any wire inside the shell, there is nothing to inspect. A cover that snaps in place might prove to be a problem if it is too easily removed. Perhaps an insert that sits well back from the face that will shovel out any debris as it is removed ... that could be in addition to a flimsy outer cover that was sacrificed during the build.

The mounting bracket is designed to hold a short removable pin (basically a small color-coded nail) that will puncture the sheetrock when it is slammed into position

I hung drywall for a few months and I did not "slam" sheets. That was in the days before roto-zip so I cut out the the outlet boxes. The drywallers today can do some ugly stuff with a roto-zip.

This holds a compressive insulation strip that will seal the box to the inside of the sheetrock when the box is pulled tight during final trim-out as the switches are screwed into position. Thus, sealing off air leaks around the box.

If that works, and that's a big if, the Green Police will applaud your product however, the existing outlet box manufacturers will not. If you harsh their gig they might fight back.





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