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    Please check my "version 2" ADA restroom layout

    Well, you never really buy beer, you just rent it.
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    Please check my "version 2" ADA restroom layout

    ADAguy, It's unfortunate, but the official "guidance" isn't always correct, or can be misleading, we designers always should look at the actual code or standard being enforced. I think RLGA is correct. There is no requirement to have compartments per ADA, even for multi-use toilet rooms...
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    Is a deadbolt NOT a "latch"?

    Back to the original question. It seems to me the crux is the word "latch" maybe has a slightly different meaning in the accessibility codes than in IBC chapter 10. I think you would have a hard time arguing that a deadbolt is not a latch in the context of IBC Chapter 10. For reference refer...
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    Is a deadbolt NOT a "latch"?

    1008.1.9.3 does not prohibit deadbolts. It prohibits making doors in the means of egress inoperable, such as locking main entry doors so that a key would be needed for egress. There is nothing wrong with a deadbolt on a toilet room door, provided it is readily released in accordance with...
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    TDLR considers single toilets paths of circulation

    None of those items listed as part of a Circulation Path sound like anything within any room, it all sounds like how pedestrians get to the room. Contrast that with the discussion on Accessible routes (206.2.4) which does include the path to individual Elements, such as toilets and lavatories...
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    Understanding ADA restroom requirements

    I may be wrong, but I've always thought this was ok, as long as the waste bin is moveable. There also is usually one in the clear area near the door in multi-user toilet rooms.
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    Understanding ADA restroom requirements

    GPE, I'm with you, I only see the requirement for 30" wide, unless in an alcove (in my case from ABA 2015 paras. 606.2 and 306).
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    Reduction in Egress Width

    Thanks Builder Bob, that is how I have always looked at it. But I think it is confusing because 1011.2 uses the term "minimum width" (meaning 36" or 44" for stairs) and 1003.6 also uses the term "minimum width" (meaning that it can not be diminished along the path of egress travel).
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    Reduction in Egress Width

    I think steveray is exactly correct. But one thing that has always confused me is that for a given capacity, stairs are required to be wider (with some exceptions) than doors, IBC 1005.3, and stairs have to be a minimum of 44 inches wide if the occupant load is 50 or more per 1011.2. Does that...
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    Pipe up

    Well, if that's what the engineer wants, they should change the note on the drawing. That is not how I would read that note and drawing, unless there is some definition of "gunite shell" that doesn't show up in your photo.
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    Maneuvering Clearances At Toilet Stalls

    North Star, Just in case it is relevant, the companion text regarding doors in the ABA standards is in paragraph 604.8.1.2, which does require compliance with the door clearances, with an exception for approach from the latch side.
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    The ABA

    Hi North Star, The trick, I think, is that Chapter 11 of IBC does not apply to US military facilities, they haven't adopted that specific chapter. So there is no reference or requirement to comply with A117.1. For what it is worth, the ABA Standards are very similar to the other accessibility...
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    The ABA

    The ABA standards are the "required" accessibility standards for the US military. A117.1 and IBC Chapter 11 are not required for the US military, except any portions that are referenced from the ABA Standards. My understanding is that this is all because there is a separate law (the...
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    Thermal barrier over foam plastic

    The American Wood Council, publication DCA-1 has some information on flame spread and smoke developed for wood products, but it is for ASTM E84, not NFPA 275. Link: http://www.awc.org/pdf/codes-standards/publications/dca/AWC-DCA1-FlameSpreadPerformance-1706.pdf
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    Thermal barrier over foam plastic

    Hopefully everybody, the foam plastic thermal barrier requirement is not new and strikes me as fairly important. Note that R316.5 offers lots of exceptions.
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    Question About Corridor Doors NFPA 101 / 80

    Yes, 19.3.6.1 requires separation and then 19.3.6.2 describes the required wall construction (if sprinklered, no rating required, just resist the passage of smoke), and 19.3.6.3 describes the required doors (again, if sprinklered no rating, just resist the passage of smoke, and the doors have to...
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    Lightning Protection Designs

    Check out UFC 3-575-01, Lightning and Static Electricity Protection Systems. There is even a section on protection for target control systems.
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    Control Wall for ADA Shower/Tub

    If it is a bathtub refer instead to 607.5 and 607.6 607 Bathtubs 607.5 Controls. Controls, other than drain stoppers, shall be located on an end wall. Controls shall be between the bathtub rim and grab bar, and between the open side of the bathtub and the centerline of the width of the bathtub...
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    The UFC Standards

    Hi north star, I'm a bit late to the discussion. We have to deal with the UFCs a lot and they can be pretty confusing. Current versions can all be found here: http://wbdg.org/ffc/dod/unified-facilities-criteria-ufc I'm not aware of any specific training on the UFCs overall. A couple of...
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    Escape window - at which stories?

    Yikes, I think it is hard to tell from the info given. It seems to me that if the 'split' 2nd floor is really some sort of mezzanine (such as if the ceiling of both the ground floor and split 2nd floor are both the same as the bottom of the third floor) then you'd have to include escape windows...
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    Occupancy Group Type For Military Bldgs.

    We do a lot of design work for the military and wrestle with the ABA/ADA thing quite a bit. The military has it's own criteria for invoking ABA in UFC 1-200-01 and it boils down to the only real exception being if the facility is used exclusively by able bodied military personnel. It usually...
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    is a serving area with opening but no door a dead end corridor

    I'm with every one else, they are not corridors. I think you just need to make sure the common path of travel and travel distance requirements are met. One subtlety not applicable here but that is a problem sometimes is that NFPA 101 for some occupancies (healthcare, 18.2.5.6.1, 2015 edition)...
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    Washington State Electric Vehicle Charging Stations

    I think tmurray is right. If triggered, either outright installation of chargers (427.4 item 1), or providing a pathway and capacity to support future installation of chargers (427.4 item 2) is required. In either case the electrical room needs to accommodate the chargers or future installation...
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    Residential Construction Type

    Agree with JBI, if you're using IRC then the question really doesn't come up, if you're using IBC then VB is a safe call. You could use a more restrictive type if you want, but there should be no reason to.
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    ADA Urinals

    Just in case anyone is wondering, the 2015 ABA Standards, applicable to federal DoD, GSA, and USPS facilities has the same language. F213.3.3 Urinals. Where more than one urinal is provided, at least one shall comply with 605.
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