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  1. Gene Boecker

    Accessible element/space with no accessible route???!?

    Hi Righter, Yes, the upstairs must be designed to have fully accessible elements. The reason the code allows the exception for limited square footage spaces is the same as that in the ADAAG. Steve's right. Its an attempt to not be an undue burden on smaller facilities. However, the thinking...
  2. Gene Boecker

    Panic Hardware

    Let's get back to the question about going to doors, finding them not usable as exits and then having to hunt for the actual exits. If there are a lot of people in the space, then the doors that are operable as exits will be in use should the other doors (the non-exits) be locked. In that...
  3. Gene Boecker

    RFS Adoption

    Missouri has passed a law that requires home builders to offer RFS to all buyers of new homes. The seller must abide by the buyer's decision and no local law or ordinance can say otherwise. This state law has a sunset provision for December of 2012. This will give local municipalities the...
  4. Gene Boecker

    The Real Forum Name Poll

    I came I saw I voted ;)
  5. Gene Boecker

    Smooth Bottom of Door

    I agree. The intent is being met. The reason for the provision is that there is a potential problem with the footrest of the wheelchair getting caught on a door that has vertical elements on it. From an ADA perspective this would be treated as equivalent facilitation. From a code standpoint...
  6. Gene Boecker

    Differences between jurisdictions

    Mark, Having been an elected official in a former life, I can reiterate what Bootleg says - politics. Every politician campaigns on the concept that they know what's best for their constituents. And that politics is all local. Therefore, they know best what needs to be done for the local...
  7. Gene Boecker

    Panic Hardware

    Better Panaics than Paniacs. You could be a Paniac Maniac!
  8. Gene Boecker

    Name the Board Discussion

    Building Codes Forum. . . Hmmm. That's better than Building Statutes Forum (B.S. Forum)
  9. Gene Boecker

    Paraprosdokian

    Or a Yogi-ism "When you come to a fork in the road - take it." and "Nobody ever goes there anymore. The place is too busy."
  10. Gene Boecker

    Campground Renting Sheds to Marcellus Shale Gas/Oil Workers!?

    Fred, I don't think it would be the IRC, if a code applies here. The "structure" is on a campground and rented out. If I was going to permit a KOA cabin, it would be as an R-2 occupancy or maybe a U occupancy. Personally I don;t see a lot of sprinklers in those 200 SF cabins so there must be...
  11. Gene Boecker

    Name the Board Discussion

    Codes R Us We the Code Geeks Construction Code Opinion Page (C-Cop) Discussion Uber Hero (DUH!)
  12. Gene Boecker

    Why you should donate

    hahaha! I'm scared to think about what that may include.
  13. Gene Boecker

    Panic Hardware

    Ben's right. It's the doors that are intended to serve as part of the means of egress from the assembly occupancy - the ones from the room and then continuing on to the exit discharge to the public way. If the room has four doors out but only two are signed as exits, it is only those two that...
  14. Gene Boecker

    Campground Renting Sheds to Marcellus Shale Gas/Oil Workers!?

    Welcome to the discussion board twister! As one of the non-inspectors on this board let me be among the first to say hello. I'd say that if they kept the wheels on them or mounted the mobile home on frames like what's done at the "trailer lot" then its still outside the code's domain since...
  15. Gene Boecker

    A rant about language

    On the serious side, limiting the freedom of speech exists since we can't yell "Fire" in a theater (unless of course there IS one). Nor can you have images of naked toddlers on billboards since it can excite pedophiles. That isn't political correctness, it's common sense. On the other hand we...
  16. Gene Boecker

    Paraprosdokian

    "I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas I'll never know."
  17. Gene Boecker

    In 2011...

    My headlines: Additional Windmills constructed for power generation in the Midwest move Kansas closer to Illinois! Missouri Protests Reduction in Representative districts in the House! Iran concedes to making a bomb. Scientists predict Iraq will be radioactive clear by 2150. China announces...
  18. Gene Boecker

    Building a snowman?

    We have 8-15 inches of snow on the ground right now her ein St. Louis. That was a PERFECT way to start the day! Thanks! (I think I've had them in my seminar classes before! - REALLY!)
  19. Gene Boecker

    Accessible means of egress stairways

    That's right Rick. Accessible MOE is required regardless of what chapter 11 says. That way, if access is provided in the future, access for the MOE is available.
  20. Gene Boecker

    Accessible means of egress stairways

    It is similar to the other provisions as Jim noted. that although access to the level is not required, the design of elements on that level must be accessible. This includes the means of egress. So, even if there is no elevator to the level, an accessible means of egress is needed. If the...
  21. Gene Boecker

    Type 'B' dwelling units

    It looks like Jim's comments with Ben's editorial have you covered! (At least as far as your question is concerned.)
  22. Gene Boecker

    Accessible means of egress stairways

    OK. My turn. 1016 addresses travel distance (for those of you on the west coast, bear with me). Section 1016 is used when there is an open stair that can be treated as a part of the exit system. If you look at exceptions #3 and #4 in 1016.1, those are the same exceptions that used to be in...
  23. Gene Boecker

    A turning space within a walk-in closet in a dwelling unit?

    Since the IBC is the scoping provision for the ANSI A117.1, I'm going with the "NO" option. As Mark indicates, if the walk-in is the only closet in the room, then the door width must allow passage. Although backing out is not as easy as turning around, it may still be possible depending on the...
  24. Gene Boecker

    ADA Lawsuit

    The 20% rule is still applicable so there are exceptions in magnitude. However, barrier removal for public accommodations is a must. Given the circumstances, an equivalent facilitation could be posed, rather than causing a business to vacate a building. People are just not being creative in...
  25. Gene Boecker

    ADA Lawsuit

    Boy! I step away from the conversation for a few minutes (ok, a week or two) and THIS happens! Anyone got another handful of mud?
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