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    Tiny Sleeping Space Code Issues

    Thank you Yikes. I think you've assessed the situation very well (from your own AHJ point of view) and what you are saying makes sense. I've already advised the Owner to take off the door and let the chips fall where they may at inspection. I'll add that he should also remove the mattress...
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    Tiny Sleeping Space Code Issues

    I've never been pressed to interpret this before, but, I would imagine it's a 7' diameter circle - that would eliminate any extra conditional language, such as measured perpendicular to... This reminds me of designing winder stairs - the 9" requirement (Oregon IRC) on the 12" walk line makes...
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    Tiny Sleeping Space Code Issues

    Do you know what in the code defines a space as a storage space?
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    Tiny Sleeping Space Code Issues

    I think treating the entire space as one room is good point generally - again, I'm not sure what defines a space as a bedroom per se. With no wall/door separating the second level, then you are saying it's not a bedroom (is bedroom defined in the code?), but it can, with proper window and stair...
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    Tiny Sleeping Space Code Issues

    Here's how you get around code minimum sleeping space requirements: I searched for the Airbnb listing for the "Treehouse" I'm posting about here, and it looks like the owner has taken it down for now. I did a general search for Portland treehouse Airbnb, and came up the this -...
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    Tiny Sleeping Space Code Issues

    Thanks for the reply. We know we can't make the argument that is a habitable room. I thought that Yikes may have been pointing out some other criteria - say, for a loft classification.
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    Tiny Sleeping Space Code Issues

    Here in Portland, Oregon, we have a lot of Craftsman era houses that were originally single story with an unfinished attic under a bungalow style low-sloped roof. People later converted those to finished bedroom spaces. When you attempt any major modifications to the house, the City calls out...
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    Tiny Sleeping Space Code Issues

    The space below meets all egress requirements, as does the Loft - the spiral stair is the minimum width for egress. Making the Loft plus the Crow's nest one space would be the argument as to why a bed should be allowed as is. I'm curious where the 7' horizontal dimension comes from - is that...
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    Tiny Sleeping Space Code Issues

    In this case, the short section of spiral stair to the Crow's Nest is code compliant for egress. In referring to sleeping lofts, I was merely pointing out that the room otherwise met the current requirement for a sleeping loft as defined in the IRC Appendix P. What I'm not sure about is, can...
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    Tiny Sleeping Space Code Issues

    Do you know in the code whether a room for sleeping needs a door? Again, I'm looking at this as a niche off the room. Since people make sleeping niches, those interpreting the code must know when such a niche breaks the threshold and becomes a separate room. What is that threshold in your...
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    Tiny Sleeping Space Code Issues

    I designed a residential accessory building in Portland, Oregon that was built seven years ago that’s tall and skinny and has a tiny “room” at the top, ostensibly for sleeping, though I never addressed it as a sleeping space, and we labeled it as storage for code review – the client called it...
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    Clarification of Common Path Distance

    The total internal distance for the common path is over 75'. I'm looking for advice on understanding the common path portion of the code. To rephrase the question as a hypothetical: Say a common path is 74', then comes to a point with two choices, both paths are another 74' to a rated corridor...
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    Clarification of Common Path Distance

    I have seen several references online to the common path travel distance being the from the remotest point of travel distance to a point in which there are two ways to an exit or to the next higher level of protection. Where in the IBC code does it describe the point of "two choices"? What I'm...
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    Locked Escape Game Rooms

    I meant to say, there is no override from...
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    Locked Escape Game Rooms

    You are completely right. I'll just leave the rooms blank and see if that will do. I just went back to the businesses website and found only one reference to being locked in a room: "What if I don't escape? Not to worry if you are unable to escape in the hour given our staff will kindly let...
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    Locked Escape Game Rooms

    I was not sure what to call these spaces. For the business, they do not serve any other purpose, though, I suppose a group up to 8 people plus staff might gather there pre or post-game. I was assuming that the assembly spaces were accessory to the business and basically counting those spaces...
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    Locked Escape Game Rooms

    It's interesting that from an internet search of escape rooms businesses, it appears that many must have lockable rooms. I found several that have a question and answer or just a list of safety features that state something like this: What happens in the case of an emergency? Put your mind at...
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    Locked Escape Game Rooms

    They are just non-used rooms, but I needed to indicate that they are not part of the assembly space and part of the egress path, so, if they are functioning a corridors, then that's what I'll call them. I think most of the suggestions about the locked rooms are good ones, especially, don't have...
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    Locked Escape Game Rooms

    Apparently can't attach image URL Here are the plan files https://www.flickr.com/photos/187067126@N02/49559884981/in/dateposted/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/187067126@N02/49559895181/in/dateposted/
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    Locked Escape Game Rooms

    I have a client that has been operating an escape room games in a tenant space in the City of Tualatin, Oregon without permits. The space is 4,300 s.f. and unsprinkled. I'm tasked with creating a life safety plan with any required upgrades. This is the City's first time dealing with an escape...
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