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2018 IBC
3002.1 says a hoistway enclosure shall be a shaft enclosure complying with 712 AND 713. Following 712 you may have the out of 712.1.9, following 713 you have no way out. How do you comply with both sections without a rated enclosure?
So then, what is a “hoistway enclosure”? Is it enclosed if it is surrounded by walls, a roof, and a door, or only if those elements maintain a rating? Easy to answer if the elevator is open, like in an atrium, but what if it is enclosed by walls to the roof?
If using 712.1.9 a two-story opening is permitted if not concealed within the construction of a wall or floor ceiling assembly. This language has been revised from “concealed within building construction”. This seems deliberate, and maybe to answer this very question:
If you have a 2-story hoistway enclosure does it have to be a rated enclosure? Per 713? Per 712.1.9? But both?
3002.1 says a hoistway enclosure shall be a shaft enclosure complying with 712 AND 713. Following 712 you may have the out of 712.1.9, following 713 you have no way out. How do you comply with both sections without a rated enclosure?
So then, what is a “hoistway enclosure”? Is it enclosed if it is surrounded by walls, a roof, and a door, or only if those elements maintain a rating? Easy to answer if the elevator is open, like in an atrium, but what if it is enclosed by walls to the roof?
If using 712.1.9 a two-story opening is permitted if not concealed within the construction of a wall or floor ceiling assembly. This language has been revised from “concealed within building construction”. This seems deliberate, and maybe to answer this very question:
If you have a 2-story hoistway enclosure does it have to be a rated enclosure? Per 713? Per 712.1.9? But both?