Accessible Means of Egress requirements at Stairs

[marcelagracia]

Hello! In 11B.207 - Accessible Means of Egress in the California Building Code notes that Means of Egress shall comply with Chapter 10, Section 1009 and Section 11B-207. Exception 4 states that Doors that provide access only to interior or exterior stairways shall not be required to comply with Section 11B-404. Section 11B-404 notes all the clearance, maneuvering, threshold, hardware, etc. required for doors, doorways and gates,
This is the first time that I'm seeing this section and I'm really surprised! Am I understanding correctly that in an interior/exterior stairway within a multifamily residential building, where one door at ground level is exiting into the public ROW, and all other doors into the shaft occur at corridors, that the door exiting into the right of way does not need to comply with 11B-404?? Does it also mean that the doors at upper levels do not have to comply with that section because they only provide access to interior stairways? Or because you can access a corridor from the inside of the interior/exterior stairway these doors do have to comply with 11B-404?
Or is this section talking specifically about stairways that are NOT exit stairways?
TIA!

 

[steveray]

Typically, the AMOE is the protected stair landing......If the first level egressed through the stair then the discharge door would need to meet (IMO but probably not technically)...But I don't know Cali specifically

 

[arwat23]

Exception 4 states that Doors that provide access only to interior or exterior stairways shall not be required to comply with Section 11B-404.

I don't see that exception in Ch 10 or 11B (tried clrl+f and nothing came up). What section is that exception under?

This is a public housing project, right? Not Ch11A?

 

[marcelagracia]

I don't see that exception in Ch 10 or 11B (tried clrl+f and nothing came up). What section is that exception under?

This is a public housing project, right? Not Ch11A?

Public housing, 11B, correct, section 11B.207, Exception 4.

 

[Joe.B]

I think it's like this, 404 is about making doors accessible to wheelchair users, the type of stairs they are describing in exception 4 would not need to be accessible to wheelchair users.

 

[arwat23]

Public housing, 11B, correct, section 11B.207, Exception 4.

Idk what tf I was looking at if I missed that... Thanks!

 

[mtlogcabin]

The door hardware would need to meet accessibility requirements. Example, lever handles in lieu of round door knobs.