Add elevator or not?

[ADAguy]

Given: Existing 3 story college dorm building (no elevator) with common facilities on ground floor and dorm rooms on floors 2 & 3.

Scope: Alterations and modernization of building.

?: If accessible rooms are colocated on the ground floor with access to common areas, can disabled students be denied access (visitatation/participation) to student rooms on the second & third floors? This to "avoid" having to add an elevator. Wouldn't this be seen as discriminatory? What if the Room mother was disabled, couldn't visit all rooms if on first floor, no?

 

[mtlogcabin]

A dorm room assigned to an individual is not a primary function area accessible to the general public.

A disabled student is not "denied" access to the room. He/she just may not be able to get there by there own physical abilities.

What if the Room mother was disabled,

I bet the job description requires her to be able to walk, stand, climb stairs, as part of the job description.

 

[steveray]

See 3411 maybe.....They would have to make improvements, but I don't think we ever get to say "you must add an elevator" in that type of situation...

 

[mark handler]

Have you read the scoping sections in 11A? when was the building built?

 

[ADAguy]

Publicly funded, pre-ADA building, cost of alterations and modifications exceed 50% of replacement value.

 

[mark handler]

IMHO

Yes an Elevator is required.

Talk with the AHJ

We need to get the drunk students out of the stairwells...

 

[steveray]

That is why I don't wear flip flops when I drink.......

 

[ADAguy]

Isla Vista at UCSB?

 

[mark handler]

UCSB, Should have said so....

 

[ADAguy]

Note: It appears that there is only one handrail (smiling) as if a second one would have helped him.

 

[steveray]

Note: It appears that there is only one handrail (smiling) as if a second one would have helped him.

And I do not think it would qualify as "graspable"....I think he is cleared for a lawsuit....