Ambulatory Stalls & Framed Restroom Stalls

[pmArchi]

I was recently designing a restroom stall that needs a fully framed out wall while also adhering to A117.1. Because 604.10.1 was written for partition walls instead of stud walls, I believe this means I need a 36" door and a ~18" Face of Finish to Toilet Centerline, which seems difficult to properly frame out the door. I think this would entail having the walls jog a bit like in the below snip but would be interested to hear what others think of that interpretation or how you might do it differently! Please let me know your thoughts or if you have any questions!

 

[Paul Sweet]

How about using a 34" door and stopping the drywall at the frame?

 

[pmArchi]

Maybe that might help clean up the framing? But we need an accessible door handle on this door as well, which is likely a 5" projection into the clear width. So to get a clear width of 32" (under 404.2.2) between the hinge and the handle, that still seems tight ...

 

[RLGA]

Maybe consider a concealed frame system, such as https://ezconcept.com/products/ezyjamb/, or "swing clear" hinges, such as https://www.mckinneyhinge.com/en/pr...etail.aehpdp-ta2395-ta2895-ag_mckinney_228062.

 

[walker.t]

while also adhering to A117.1

You didn’t say if you need to comply with A117.1-2009 or A117.1-2017.

If A117.1-2009:
1. Add a vertical grab bar on both sides of the stall per 604.5.1.
2. Clear width is an absolute 36”, so your 18.5”x2 = 37” won’t work.

If A117.1-2017
1. Add a vertical grab bar on both sides of the stall per 604.5.1.
2. Clear width is 35” to 37” so your 18.5”x2 = 37” is OK.

I think I read something recently (last month or two?) on the forum regarding toilet partition doors locking versus latching, I got the impression that the implied exception to door maneuvering clearances inside the stall was allowed because typical partition door hardware has a manual lock, not an automatic latch, so you want to be careful about that.

Your door as drawn does not show a stop at the latch jamb, your minimum width is measured from the floor up to 34” from the stop to the face of the door when opened 90° per 404.2.2.

But we need an accessible door handle on this door as well, which is likely a 5" projection into the clear width

Maybe you can use surface-mounted partition door hardware, that’s much less than 5”.

and stopping the drywall at the frame

I think it’s called a “Z-reveal” maybe, I think they make it in plastic and metal, makes a nice clean gap between the wallboard and the frame.

 

[Yikes]

I think I read something recently (last month or two?) on the forum regarding toilet partition doors locking versus latching

Here was a previous discussion on why to call it a "lock" and not a "latch":
https://www.thebuildingcodeforum.co...oors-need-12-push-clearance.14734/post-197190