Bakery occupancy classification

[rth]

I see bakeries are under F-1 but what about a small bakery that just sells to walk ins? I'm told this would be classified as a business but would like to know where to find this in writing.

2006 IFC adopted

Thanks

 

[mark handler]

Small food service B or M

 

[steveray]

Retaraunt A2...less than 50 occupants B

303.1.1 Small buildings and tenant spaces.

A building or tenant space used for assembly purposes with an occupant load of less than 50 persons shall be classified as a Group B occupancy.

 

[cda]

Agree with Steve

Treat it like a restaurant, Pizza Hut, etc

 

[mark handler]

Retaraunt A2...less than 50 occupants B 303.1.1 Small buildings and tenant spaces.

A building or tenant space used for assembly purposes with an occupant load of less than 50 persons shall be classified as a Group B occupancy.

If no seating, not a restaurant . sales only, M

 

[cda]

ABM, sounds like mixed occupancy

 

[fatboy]

Cut to the chase, if it's small enough, B

 

[Codegeek]

I'm with fatboy.

 

[mark handler]

Supermarket with Bakery an M

Bakery no seating, not a restaurant, And not by definition a B

 

[cda]

So the business is not going to do anything to encourage customers to stay eat and buy any more stuff

If so M it is

 

[mark handler]

So the business is not going to do anything to encourage customers to stay eat and buy any more stuffIf so M it is

I don't know that we do not have all the information, do we ever?

 

[cda]

In the bigger scheme of life we are merely cogs in the wheel of life, and so is this pondering, a cog in the evolution of the code of life

 

[mark handler]

That's always a problem we never have all the information

 

[ICE]

It's a hubcap and a can of Sterno in some guy's garage.

 

[steveray]

The bakery in the grocery store is accessory (usually)....that would be the only way I could call it an M.....

 

[Paul Sweet]

Small neighborhood bakeries should be B or M. F-1 would be for large BAKERIES that send out baked goods by the truckload.

 

[Frank]

Small neighborhood bakeries should be B or M. F-1 would be for large BAKERIES that send out baked goods by the truckload.

Agree just like print shop vs printing plant.

800 sq ft bakery with one double decker oven and 2 display cases that buys sugar and flour by the sack and makes custom cakes, cupcakes, and cookies is a B. 811,000 sq ft bakery with multiple continuous production lines for cookies and crackers with dual rail spurs for bringing in the flour, sugar, and shortning by multiple railcar lot with 70 ft high automated rack storage for finished goods F-1/S-1. These two examples are about 4 miles apart in our county.

 

[cda]

Are there much difference in code requirements for a B or M , for small buildings???

 

[mark handler]

Are there much difference in code requirements for a B or M , for small buildings???

N o .. .

 

[fatboy]

"N o .. ."

Agreed...........

 

[steveray]

Are there much difference in code requirements for a B or M , for small buildings???

Pretty close and often have the same requirements and exceptions....

 

[rth]

Thanks fellas, given the square footage looks like the occupant load will be over 50 so A-2 it is.

Curveball - upstairs attic is office space so now it has to be sprinkled top to bottom, right? 903.2.1.2

 

[Francis Vineyard]

An exception to others if they are milling their own flour; NEC hazardous location; F-1

 

[cda]

Thanks fellas, given the square footage looks like the occupant load will be over 50 so A-2 it is. Curveball - upstairs attic is office space so now it has to be sprinkled top to bottom, right? 903.2.1.2

Are you using the entire sq ft to make that call or just where customers will be