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California's (up to) $1.7 million toilet project

Mech

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Local officials were set to gather on Wednesday in San Francisco's Noe Valley Town Square to celebrate their latest win: a single public toilet that will cost as much as $1.7 million to build and won't be completed until 2025.

But the celebration was canceled after a San Francisco Chronicle columnist highlighted the "mind-boggling" and "maddening" details of the project.

California Assemblyman Matt Haney told the newspaper that he now considers the price tag "inexplicable."

"When Rec and Park first told us the number, it sounded shockingly high to me," Haney told the San Francisco Chronicle.

"I’m glad that Noe Valley will at some point get a bathroom, but it shouldn’t cost this much, and it shouldn’t take this long, and I’m angry about it. … It’s not something I want to celebrate right now."

A spokesperson for the San Francisco Recreation and Parks Department told Fox News Digital that the exorbitantly high cost is due to "onerous demands and unpredictable costs levied by PG&E," construction costs that have skyrocketed 20% to 30% in the past two years, and employment of workers who are being paid a living wage with benefits.

"It’s also important to note that public projects and their overall cost estimates don’t just reflect the price of erecting structures," the spokesperson said. "They include the cost of planning, drawing, permits, reviews, public outreach and construction management."

By the time the toilet is actually completed in 2025, the cost could be less than the $1.7 million price tag, at which point leftover funds will be put toward maintenance and upgrades, according to the parks department.

Regardless, Haney said that his constituents have been asking for a public toilet since the town square opened in 2016. San Francisco's notorious feces problem has been at the top of local officials' minds for years, prompting Mayor London Breed to announce a new public health and safety initiative last December.

"The challenges the cramped conditions, the nasty streets, and when I say nasty – full of feces and urine – that the Department of Public Works is cleaning every single day, but it comes back just a few hours later," Breed said at the time.
 
"The challenges the cramped conditions, the nasty streets, and when I say nasty – full of feces and urine – that the Department of Public Works is cleaning every single day, but it comes back just a few hours later," Breed said at the time.
Haney said that his constituents have been asking for a public toilet since the town square opened in 2016.
I guess the town square should be removed rather than asking people to use a toilet. Call it a lesson learned.
 
Our small town put in a "Portland Loo" (google it) at the cost of approx. $200k. There was general uproar about the cost, but it has been serving the purpose for years and there has not been any problems. I am sure people do not understand the costs of tying into the sewer and water mains, re-paving, etc.
 
You can rent porta toilets, like 20 of them, on a monthly basis and including waste removal, maintenance and upkeep for like 100 years for $1.7 million.
 
$1.7 million is a projected cost. If the things gets built the actual cost will be more….much more.
 
$1.7 million is a projected cost. If the things gets built the actual cost will be more….much more.
I was getting ready to say the same thing, I had to laugh with the comment in the original post about if it comes in less the excess money will be used for maintenance costs. When have you ever seen a government project come in under budget? I love all the PC words they put in the explanation trying to justify the ridiculously high cost!
 
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