Cardboard Compactors

[jar546]

Received the following question from an RDP:

Jeff,Quick question: is there guidance in the UCC for cardboard compactors?

Like requirements for concrete pads? And drainage to the sanitary system vs the stormwater system, or no drainage at all?

My experience has been the electrical requirements only and that's it. I usually see these mounted inside when a baler and outside when the containers get changed out. Is there something else that I am missing?

 

[fatboy]

I haven't done one separately, but I agree with your analysis.

 

[rshuey]

Same as you in State College. just electrical issues and property maintenance/fire codes for stacking bales on exterior.

 

[north star]

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Agree with **rshuey** !.......Property maintenance issues, ...the actual

enclosure of one of these compactors; if there is one, ...[ compliant ]

electrical supply to the compactor, ...storage of the bales & other

combustible materials inside the enclosure.

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[cda]

He may be using the wrong term for the compactor

Some city's may have some sanitary requirements for actual outside compactors , so there is no runoff

http://www.ci.milpitas.ca.gov/_pdfs/eng_solid_waste_guidelines.pdf

 

[ICE]

Fire dept might have a few questions. If it is outside, the planning dept. may need to approve it.

 

[Mark K]

Some of the Milpitas requirements are not building code issues and thus nota concern of the building department. On the other hand some of the requirements particularly related to construction of enclosure are building standards and thus should be adopted as part of the building code. If these requirements were included in local ordinances but not made part of the local building code then they would have been illegally adopted and not enforceable.

Since California law states that local amendments are allowed only when necessary because of local climatic, geologic, or topographic conditions it is hard to see how the city has the authority to adopt and enforce the relevant building regulations.

 

[ICE]

Some of the Milpitas requirements are not building code issues and thus nota concern of the building department. On the other hand some of the requirements particularly related to construction of enclosure are building standards and thus should be adopted as part of the building code. If these requirements were included in local ordinances but not made part of the local building code then they would have been illegally adopted and not enforceable. Since California law states that local amendments are allowed only when necessary because of local climatic, geologic, or topographic conditions it is hard to see how the city has the authority to adopt and enforce the relevant building regulations.

So what in particular didn't you like about City of Milpitas Development Guideline for Solid Waste Services?

The Ca. law about.....local climatic, geologic, or topographic.....is brought up occasionally and nothing ever comes of it.

Some years ago, a So.Ca. trash enclosure wall toppled. A child was killed. Some time after that came a County regulation/ordinance/NFR that trash enclosures get a separate permit and an engineered design. They don't topple easily.

Maybe one of the 'ics in the Ca. law should be the Public.

 

[Mark K]

The question is not whether the local recommendations are good or bad but whether they can be mandated by the local government.

Regarding the limitations on local regulations can I help it if the cities and counties ignore the law.

Concerns about trash enclosures toppling can be addressed by enforcing existing code provisions. If you build a wall it must comply with the structural provisions in the building code.

When the state adopts the California Building Code they have made a decision as to the minimum requirements to protect the public. The fact that you may disagree with their choices doesn't give us the authority to change the requirements.

 

[Builder Bob]

Fire code address rubish containers size and distance and sometimes types of construction matter..... Chapter 16 of the IBC if you are in a seismic region......... Planning sometimes throws in architectural and or drainage issues for the device if located outside.

The biggest thorn has been sprinkler protection for the trash chute if connected to the building. That is why most of them are located outside of buildings so the store employees get soaked in a rain storm.