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Commercial plan review Q.
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Re: Commercial plan review Q.
well if you go to an early post you cannot store in a mechanical/ electrical room by some peoples reading of the book.
Have seen them next to water heaters
what do you define as a furnace unit???
electric or gas???
any clearance required by maker of the furnace units???
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well if you go to an early post you cannot store in a mechanical/ electrical room by some peoples reading of the book.
Have seen them next to water heaters
what do you define as a furnace unit???
electric or gas???
any clearance required by maker of the furnace units???
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1358
JBI
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Re: Commercial plan review Q.
Pc - It is common to find the mechanical room used for storage.
It is rare to find such an arrangement has been approved by the AHJ.
Pc - It is common to find the mechanical room used for storage.
It is rare to find such an arrangement has been approved by the AHJ.
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Existing electric furnaces, information on existing furnace not provided. Their tight on space for storage but mechanical rooms are not storage rooms until the inspector issues the CO. Was looking for something in regards to Co2 storage restrictions but theres no open flame, all electric appliances?
section 306 IMC clearance any other codes to site?
Existing electric furnaces, information on existing furnace not provided. Their tight on space for storage but mechanical rooms are not storage rooms until the inspector issues the CO. Was looking for something in regards to Co2 storage restrictions but theres no open flame, all electric appliances?
section 306 IMC clearance any other codes to site?
JBI
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Pc - Not for nuthin but, you are aware that CO2 is a fire suppression agent, right?
Pc - Not for nuthin but, you are aware that CO2 is a fire suppression agent, right?
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Re: Commercial plan review Q.
Pcinspector1,
Look at Section 3003.7.6 [ Heating ] in the `06 IFC. Also, see Chapter 30 for additional
storage requirements / restrictions for compressed gases [ Section 3004.2 ].
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Pcinspector1,
Look at Section 3003.7.6 [ Heating ] in the `06 IFC. Also, see Chapter 30 for additional
storage requirements / restrictions for compressed gases [ Section 3004.2 ].
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Re: Commercial plan review Q.
John,
YES, on the Co2 (carbon dioxide),
Looking for something to get the darn cylinders out of the mechanical room. One thing I have on the plan review is working clearance in front of the breaker boxes which are directly accross from the furnaces but there is still space available in the room.
Requesting information on the existing furnaces also.
IFC 315.2.3 addresses the boxes of syrup in mechanical rooms if the boxes are combustable.
John,
YES, on the Co2 (carbon dioxide),
Looking for something to get the darn cylinders out of the mechanical room. One thing I have on the plan review is working clearance in front of the breaker boxes which are directly accross from the furnaces but there is still space available in the room.
Requesting information on the existing furnaces also.
IFC 315.2.3 addresses the boxes of syrup in mechanical rooms if the boxes are combustable.
Re: Commercial plan review Q.
are you talking about the old type CO2 cyliners or the new type big silver bullets???
http://wilsonsupply.net/carbonation_info.html
are you talking about the old type CO2 cyliners or the new type big silver bullets???
http://wilsonsupply.net/carbonation_info.html
Coug Dad
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Re: Commercial plan review Q.
I do not see what the problem is with having the drink dispensing equipment in the equipment room so long as required clearances are maintain around all equipment.
I do not see what the problem is with having the drink dispensing equipment in the equipment room so long as required clearances are maintain around all equipment.
Re: Commercial plan review Q.
Coug Dad,
Have you seen this before? Is it common to see the pop dispensing items in the mechanical room, just asking?
cda,
Furnaces are listed as electric. Nothing on the plans about the cylinder type, I called for more info.
Coug Dad,
Have you seen this before? Is it common to see the pop dispensing items in the mechanical room, just asking?
cda,
Furnaces are listed as electric. Nothing on the plans about the cylinder type, I called for more info.
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Stolen from someone elses post, talks about fuel fired.
Kinda of a little less likely of a fire from the electric stuff.
I keep going back to mechanical room and electric room looks a little different in the modern age than 40 years ago
MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT/APPLIANCE ROOM. A room or space in which nonfuel-fired mechanical
equipment and appliances are located.
FURNACE ROOM. A room primarily utilized for the installation of fuel-burning, space-heating and water-heating appliances other than boilers (see also “Boiler room”)
Stolen from someone elses post, talks about fuel fired.
Kinda of a little less likely of a fire from the electric stuff.
I keep going back to mechanical room and electric room looks a little different in the modern age than 40 years ago
MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT/APPLIANCE ROOM. A room or space in which nonfuel-fired mechanical
equipment and appliances are located.
FURNACE ROOM. A room primarily utilized for the installation of fuel-burning, space-heating and water-heating appliances other than boilers (see also “Boiler room”)
Coug Dad
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Re: Commercial plan review Q.
Many restaurants are in single story buildings so the air handlers and cooler and freezer refrigeration equipment is usually on the roof. Given that, I don't usually see dedicated rooms for soda dispensing equipment except in large installations like an arena or multi plex theater. In smaller installations, it is not unusual to see the equipment in storage / equipment rooms. It would not bother me to see it in a "mechanical" room if required clearances are provided around the equipment.
Many restaurants are in single story buildings so the air handlers and cooler and freezer refrigeration equipment is usually on the roof. Given that, I don't usually see dedicated rooms for soda dispensing equipment except in large installations like an arena or multi plex theater. In smaller installations, it is not unusual to see the equipment in storage / equipment rooms. It would not bother me to see it in a "mechanical" room if required clearances are provided around the equipment.
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Pcinspector1,
I would agree with Coug Dad also, in that it is not uncommon for these type of cylinders to
be stored in a ' multi-use ' type room, as long as the required clearances from heat sources
are maintained and the cyclinders themselves are stored / secured so as to not be knocked
over.
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Pcinspector1,
I would agree with Coug Dad also, in that it is not uncommon for these type of cylinders to
be stored in a ' multi-use ' type room, as long as the required clearances from heat sources
are maintained and the cyclinders themselves are stored / secured so as to not be knocked
over.
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JBI
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As a practical matter, the problem is not that they are in there, nor that some other storage ends up in the mechanical or equipment room. The problem is not being able to babysit the place when they keep adding more and more storage until they do create a hazard. :roll:
As a practical matter, the problem is not that they are in there, nor that some other storage ends up in the mechanical or equipment room. The problem is not being able to babysit the place when they keep adding more and more storage until they do create a hazard. :roll:
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Re: Commercial plan review Q.
John,
I agree! Unfortunately, sometimes it takes a hazardous event to have corrective action taken so that the hazard
doesn't exist again in the future. Unfortunately, in some AHJ's, the code officials do not have the manpower or
allotted time to ' babysit ' every single condition. What the heck ever happened to personal responsibility? Have
the attorneys convinced everyone that they are no longer to blame for anything?
I guess that we can only
cite so many codes and restrictions. At some point the building owner or occupants should take responsibility for
their use of the spaces.
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John,
I agree! Unfortunately, sometimes it takes a hazardous event to have corrective action taken so that the hazard
doesn't exist again in the future. Unfortunately, in some AHJ's, the code officials do not have the manpower or
allotted time to ' babysit ' every single condition. What the heck ever happened to personal responsibility? Have
the attorneys convinced everyone that they are no longer to blame for anything?
I guess that we can onlycite so many codes and restrictions. At some point the building owner or occupants should take responsibility for
their use of the spaces.
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