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gbhammer said:
You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek. But first... first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril. Mm-hmm. You shall see thangs, wonderful to tell. You shall see a... a cow... on the roof of a cotton house, ha. And, oh, so many startlements. I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the obstacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward. Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation.
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o'brother thoust has provided a great quote from a great movie!
 
Msradell said:
From the NEC210.63 Heating, Air-Conditioning, and Refrigeration Equipment Outlet

A 125-volt, single-phase, 15- or 20-ampere-rated receptacle outlet shall be installed at an accessible location for the servicing of heating, air-conditioning, and refrigeration equipment. The receptacle shall be located on the same level and with 7.5m (25 ft) of the heating, air-conditioning, and refrigeration equipment. The receptacle outlet shall not be connected to the load side of the equipment disconnecting means.

There are a few important points to mention here. First off, a hvac equipment outlet is required no matter where an hvac unit is located. This means that whether the unit is mounted on the floor, in a closet, in a ceiling, is exterior pad mounted or roof mounted, this code is required.

The next thing of importance is that when a service receptacle occurs in an exterior location, it must be GFCI protected per 210.8(B) and have a weatherproof enclosure per 406.9
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Spot on.

Msradell said:
On the other hand the 120v receptacle is required to be on its own dedicated circuit
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But I believe NS and myself were looking for a code reference for the highlighted statement above.
 
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Exactly Chris!....There are other forum members / guests that

desire to have an actual code section provided.....It just

seems to be easier to communicate to others when you have

the printed word to show to them!

FWIW, I wasn't trying to diss Msradell [ or anyone else ]!

ICE / Tigerloose / other:



"By now, you should know that you can't believe everything I come up with. Tiger"
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Darn it ICE, you had such a good reputation going too!.......Now,

I will have to keep my best eyeball on your postings! :o

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chris kennedy said:
We all have things stuck in our heads that we think are right until we see that friendly reminder.
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It has happened to me plenty of times and I can thank you for pointing me in the right direction now and then.
 
Msradell said:
I think the condensate onto the roof is a local issue not a code issue any place I've ever checked. On the other hand the 120v receptacle is required to be on its own dedicated circuit so it's able to be used for servicing while the unit is out of service.
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Msradell said:
From the NEC210.63 Heating, Air-Conditioning, and Refrigeration Equipment Outlet

A 125-volt, single-phase, 15- or 20-ampere-rated receptacle outlet shall be installed at an accessible location for the servicing of heating, air-conditioning, and refrigeration equipment. The receptacle shall be located on the same level and with 7.5m (25 ft) of the heating, air-conditioning, and refrigeration equipment. The receptacle outlet shall not be connected to the load side of the equipment disconnecting means.

There are a few important points to mention here. First off, a hvac equipment outlet is required no matter where an hvac unit is located. This means that whether the unit is mounted on the floor, in a closet, in a ceiling, is exterior pad mounted or roof mounted, this code is required.

The next thing of importance is that when a service receptacle occurs in an exterior location, it must be GFCI protected per 210.8(B) and have a weatherproof enclosure per 406.9
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ICE said:
While all of this is correct, your first statement is incorrect. ("On the other hand the 120v receptacle is required to be on its own dedicated circuit so it's able to be used for servicing while the unit is out of service.") There is no requirement for a dedicated circuit.
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Since 210.63 requires that the receptacle shall not be connected to the load side of the equipment disconnect and this type of equipment, in anything other than residential service utilizes power feeds greater than 120 volts (usually 480v) then meet the requirement is going to necessitate providing a separate service for the receptacle.
 
Msradell said:
Since 210.63 requires that the receptacle shall not be connected to the load side of the equipment disconnect and this type of equipment, in anything other than residential service utilizes power feeds greater than 120 volts (usually 480v) then meet the requirement is going to necessitate providing a separate service for the receptacle.
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\But not a dedicated circuit.
 
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