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Courtyard Building Reentry/ Exit?

steveray

steveray

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Why do I always get these late on Friday?

New apartment building with enclosed courtyard. Does anyone know how you could stop travel distance at the "exterior" wall reentry into the building? Similar to a horizontal exit, but not sure I am there yet.....

 
Ground floor...Building(s) are 3A and 5A....

Thanks BB, I wasn't thinking of that for the courtyard, just the building(s)...They do not have it labelled as a horizontal exit, but for some reason they stop counting travel distance there. The grey building goes into the stair (VEE), not a HE. Until it enters the yellow building, and the people from the yellow building enter the stair (VEE and HE) and then reenter the yellow building....It has other issues, just trying to wrap my brain around the courtyard thing right now and see if I am missing something where a courtyard that reenters a building travel distance would stop at that reentry to a corridor and not an exit....
 
steveray said:
Ground floor...Building(s) are 3A and 5A....

Thanks BB, I wasn't thinking of that for the courtyard, just the building(s)...They do not have it labelled as a horizontal exit, but for some reason they stop counting travel distance there. The grey building goes into the stair (VEE), not a HE. Until it enters the yellow building, and the people from the yellow building enter the stair (VEE and HE) and then reenter the yellow building....It has other issues, just trying to wrap my brain around the courtyard thing right now and see if I am missing something where a courtyard that reenters a building travel distance would stop at that reentry to a corridor and not an exit....
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Why does travel distance stop when you enter the corridor??
 
If first floor it looks like it shows exiting into "stair A"

Correct ?? Or where does Stair A exit to??

A one of the other problems, the bedroom windows facing the courtyard???????
 
steveray said:
That is the base of my current question....I don't believe it does, but I want to make sure I am not missing something....Because I can't believe the designer missed something this huge...
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I would say diffently No it does not stop in the
corridor.


1. BUT. What is the rating of wall between the courtyard and rest of the building??
2. Plus I guess there is glass in that wall somewhere ??

3. Plus it looks like bedroom windows dump into the courtyard??? BIG problem??
 
cda said:
I would say diffently No it does not stop in the
corridor.


1. BUT. What is the rating of wall between the courtyard and rest of the building??
2. Plus I guess there is glass in that wall somewhere ??

3. Plus it looks like bedroom windows dump into the courtyard??? BIG problem??
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It's 5A and 3A so I assume 1hr and 2 hr exterior walls....I can't think of a reason EERO's can't go into a courtyard....
 
steveray said:
It's 5A and 3A so I assume 1hr and 2 hr exterior walls....I can't think of a reason EERO's can't go into a courtyard....
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Does it meet this???:;

Such openings shall open directly into a public way or to a yard or court """"that opens to a public way. """
 
2003ish....But I still don't think I see it in the newer codes either...Upon further review, I see it in the newer code
 
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So I dump into an enclosed courtyard, how am I suppose to exit back through the burning first floor of the building to the public way? Are their protected horizontal exits from the courtyard to the public way?
 
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