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Definition of a Structure
- Thread starter Deercreek
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It looks like Michigan May have a statewide building code
www.michigan.gov
Maybe the state amended it also ???
If statewide, not sure if a city can amend it??!
Code Books
www.michigan.gov
Maybe the state amended it also ???
If statewide, not sure if a city can amend it??!
maybe????
No. The township cannot modify the building code.
STILLE-DEROSSETT-HALE SINGLE STATE CONSTRUCTION CODE ACT (EXCERPT)
Act 230 of 1972,
125.1502a Additional definitions.
Sec. 2a.
(bb) "Structure" means that which is built or constructed, an edifice or building of any kind, or a piece of work artificially built up or composed of parts joined together in some definite manner. Structure does not include a structure incident to the use for agricultural purposes of the land on which the structure is located and does not include works of heavy civil construction including, but not limited to, a highway, bridge, dam, reservoir, lock, mine, harbor, dockside port facility, an airport landing facility and facilities for the generation, transmission, or distribution of electricity. Structure includes a part or parts of the structure and all equipment in the structure unless the context clearly requires a different meaning.
STILLE-DEROSSETT-HALE SINGLE STATE CONSTRUCTION CODE ACT (EXCERPT)
Act 230 of 1972,
125.1502a Additional definitions.
Sec. 2a.
(bb) "Structure" means that which is built or constructed, an edifice or building of any kind, or a piece of work artificially built up or composed of parts joined together in some definite manner. Structure does not include a structure incident to the use for agricultural purposes of the land on which the structure is located and does not include works of heavy civil construction including, but not limited to, a highway, bridge, dam, reservoir, lock, mine, harbor, dockside port facility, an airport landing facility and facilities for the generation, transmission, or distribution of electricity. Structure includes a part or parts of the structure and all equipment in the structure unless the context clearly requires a different meaning.
Regarding what was determined by the Township, here are the minutes from the August meeting:
Discussion centered on three topics. First, are LP Tanks structures? Secondly, is a text amendment needed to require LP Tanks to meet setbacks like other structures. Lastly, can a resolution can be passed stating that from this point forward LP Tanks are to be required to adhere to regulations like other structures. Generators were suggested to be in the same category as LP tanks. It was agreed that LP Tanks were structures and the attorney was directed to develop a resolution for the next meeting.
from the September minutes:
Watershed Event Resolution: The township’s attorney was asked to develop a resolution regarding enforcement of setbacks for small structures such as propane tanks, generators, and similar structures.
rogerpa: If i understand your point, the State of Michigan has set the definition of a structure and the Township cannot change it. If the issue they are attempting to resolve is related to setback rules, they are free to establish setback rules that fit the Township needs. Correct?
Discussion centered on three topics. First, are LP Tanks structures? Secondly, is a text amendment needed to require LP Tanks to meet setbacks like other structures. Lastly, can a resolution can be passed stating that from this point forward LP Tanks are to be required to adhere to regulations like other structures. Generators were suggested to be in the same category as LP tanks. It was agreed that LP Tanks were structures and the attorney was directed to develop a resolution for the next meeting.
from the September minutes:
Watershed Event Resolution: The township’s attorney was asked to develop a resolution regarding enforcement of setbacks for small structures such as propane tanks, generators, and similar structures.
rogerpa: If i understand your point, the State of Michigan has set the definition of a structure and the Township cannot change it. If the issue they are attempting to resolve is related to setback rules, they are free to establish setback rules that fit the Township needs. Correct?
Not my area,,,
But sounds more like what I would call a. Zoning issue.
I think they can do that
There should be one or two public hearings.
If enough people do not want it to happen
They need to voice that
Hopefully the powers will listen
As far as if it goes into affect, just a matter of where the tank/ gen can be located.
I think we do not allow lpg in front yards
Ok, this makes a lot more sense than the original posting. They are not including generators in the definition of a structure, they are applying structure zoning to generators. I can agree with that.
One cities thoughts
Look under Mechanical permit :::::
Look under Mechanical permit :::::
I will question the Zoning official. Here is what I read: (copied from above minutes) Generators were suggested to be in the same category as LP tanks. It was agreed that LP Tanks were structures... I can only assume a generator is now considered a structure under this wording.
I learned the person who was the subject of the complaint received a letter indicating a propane tank is considered a structure and the take needed to be moved off the property line, consistent with the offsets for a structure.
I learned the person who was the subject of the complaint received a letter indicating a propane tank is considered a structure and the take needed to be moved off the property line, consistent with the offsets for a structure.
Read thru this
They just do not want it as a decoration in the front yard.
Or against your neighbors house
or similar
They just do not want it as a decoration in the front yard.
Or against your neighbors house
or similar
ADAguy
Registered User
Semantics yielding misunderstanding, lacking clarity of intent/purpose
Treat it as a definition impacting zoning codes not structural building codes. This seems to be the intent of the city. If you try to apply this definition to the building code structural provisions you will go down a rabbit hole.
Most people, including most city council members, do not appreciate the fact that the laws authorizing zoning regulations and building codes are different
Most people, including most city council members, do not appreciate the fact that the laws authorizing zoning regulations and building codes are different
my250r11
Sawhorse
Be easier to just say propane & generators need to meet the same setbacks as accessory & other structures. But hey let's make it complicated.