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Does an accessible bar counter need "companion seating"?

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I understand that in ADA 226.3 and 227.3, a bar in a restaurant needs an accessible service and sales area.
But when a bar is part of an A occupancy dining facility (over 50 occupants), does it trigger companion seating per 221.1 and 221.3?
If "no", is that because the intent of the word "assembly" in 221.1 is for spectator viewing, not for dining or drinking?

If "yes", does that mean I need to provide a low seat at the bar for a companion to be at eye level with the person in the wheelchair?
 
I don't think companion seating specified in 221.1 is required at a bar unless it's one of the assembly spaces that's specified in 221.

There's no mention of dining or drinking in that section. That's covered in 226.

The number of wheelchair spaces required in 221.2.1.1 conflicts with the 5% requirements of 226.1. That leads me to believe 221 doesn't necessarily apply to bars.
 
I understand that in ADA 226.3 and 227.3, a bar in a restaurant needs an accessible service and sales area.
But when a bar is part of an A occupancy dining facility (over 50 occupants), does it trigger companion seating per 221.1 and 221.3?
If "no", is that because the intent of the word "assembly" in 221.1 is for spectator viewing, not for dining or drinking?

If "yes", does that mean I need to provide a low seat at the bar for a companion to be at eye level with the person in the wheelchair?

Hi Yikes,
Here is your Answer from the US Access Board

The ADA 226.3 and 227.3, does a bar in a restaurant needs an accessible service and sales area.

Yes. The bar is functioning as a sales/service counter, so there needs to be a portion that at least complies with 904.4. The portion of the bar complying with 902 can double as the accessible sales counter. [also, 226.3 does not exist in the ADA]

If a bar is over 50 occupants, does it trigger companion seating per 221.1 and 221.3?

Companion seating is only required within assembly areas and has nothing to do with total number of occupants

If "no", is that because the intent of the word "assembly" in 221.1 is for spectator viewing, not for dining or drinking?

A dining/drinking area can be an assembly area (think Medieval Times), but if the intent of the space is solely for food/drinks then it’s not assembly.

106.5 Defined Terms

Assembly Area. A building or facility, or portion thereof, used for the purpose of entertainment, educational or civic gatherings, or similar purposes. For the purposes of these requirements, assembly areas include, but are not limited to, classrooms, lecture halls, courtrooms, public meeting rooms, public hearing rooms, legislative chambers, motion picture houses, auditoria, theaters, playhouses, dinner theaters, concert halls, centers for the performing arts, amphitheaters, arenas, stadiums, grandstands, or convention centers.

If "yes", does that mean I need to provide a low seat at the bar for a companion to be at eye level with the person in the wheelchair?

This would be a good recommendation (and I think is a requirement in California).



Josh Schorr

TA Coordinator

U.S. Access Board

1331 F. Street, NW, Suite 1000

Office: 202.272.0029

Cell: 202.480.7206
The ADA 226.3 and 227.3, does a bar in a restaurant needs an accessible service and sales area.

Yes. The bar is functioning as a sales/service counter, so there needs to be a portion that at least complies with 904.4. The portion of the bar complying with 902 can double as the accessible sales counter. [also, 226.3 does not exist in the ADA]



If a bar is over 50 occupants, does it trigger companion seating per 221.1 and 221.3?

Companion seating is only required within assembly areas and has nothing to do with total number of occupants

If "no", is that because the intent of the word "assembly" in 221.1 is for spectator viewing, not for dining or drinking?

A dining/drinking area can be an assembly area (think Medieval Times), but if the intent of the space is solely for food/drinks then it’s not assembly.

106.5 Defined Terms

Assembly Area. A building or facility, or portion thereof, used for the purpose of entertainment, educational or civic gatherings, or similar purposes. For the purposes of these requirements, assembly areas include, but are not limited to, classrooms, lecture halls, courtrooms, public meeting rooms, public hearing rooms, legislative chambers, motion picture houses, auditoria, theaters, playhouses, dinner theaters, concert halls, centers for the performing arts, amphitheaters, arenas, stadiums, grandstands, or convention centers.

If "yes", does that mean I need to provide a low seat at the bar for a companion to be at eye level with the person in the wheelchair?

This would be a good recommendation (and I think is a requirement in California).



Josh Schorr

TA Coordinator

U.S. Access Board

1331 F. Street, NW, Suite 1000

Office: 202.272.0029

Cell: 202.480.7206
 
Yeah, confusing that assembly includes restaurants and cafeterias and airports and such in building and fire codes - 50 people or more - but the Access Board redefined it.

As Jean points out, it seems CA does require the companion seat at a bar. As a designer, I wouldn't consider not having a companion seat at the lower bar section, with enough space for two wheelchairs. Seems rudimentary. Anyone using code as a basis for "good design" is not qualified to be a designer.
 
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