Egress Through a Space

[Fulli06]

I have a preliminary plan that an owner wants to change, removing a corridor and exit which would put the egress path through a space (assembly) to an adjacent exit. I'm not sure this will work. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Have a look at the provided pic thanks

 

[cda]

If approved does it meet all the other exiting requirements?

Is this the entire space??


The only somewhat problem is assuring clear access thru the room

 

[cda]

provide a discernible path of egress travel to an exit.


An exit access shall not pass through a room that can be locked to prevent egress.

 

[Fulli06]

This is an addition to a church. It abuts to a low traffic rear hallway. I guess my question is- is it sufficient that to exit from the addition, you have to pass through an unconcentrated assembly area on either side and exit to the exterior through the rear hallways exits?

 

[Keystone]

You would need to look at exit distances, occupant loads from current and future through that door, door width, as CDA stated above can this door be locked, etc? To many unknowns to provide a blanket answer.

 

[cda]

This is an addition to a church. It abuts to a low traffic rear hallway. I guess my question is- is it sufficient that to exit from the addition, you have to pass through an unconcentrated assembly area on either side and exit to the exterior through the rear hallways exits?

So there is more to the exiting than shown?


If you meet all of 1016 and travel distance
You are good to go.

It use to be only one room was allowed, but no longer




https://up.codes/s/egress-through-intervening-spaces

 

[Builder Bob]

Fire sprinkler or not? Occupant Load, Travel Distance, Common Path of travel?

 

[Mr. Inspector]

Need to know what builder bob says and the type of locks/latch that on the egress doors

 

[mark handler]

 

[classicT]

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If unobstructed, why not?

1017.3 Measurement
Exit access travel distance shall be measured from the most remote point within a story along the natural and unobstructed path of horizontal and vertical egress travel to the entrance to an exit.

Exception: In open parking garages, exit access travel distance is permitted to be measured to the closest riser of an exit access stairway or the closest slope of an exit access ramp.
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Measure along the natural and unobstructed path.... unless obstructed, do you walk at perfect right angles? I'd say that the "natural" path is straight line from A to B.

 

[cda]

I think fulli gave up

 

[e hilton]

Mark ... why can’t you cut the diagonal? My architects do that all the time on my drawings.

 

[mark handler]

If unobstructed, why not?

1017.3 Measurement
Exit access travel distance shall be measured from the most remote point within a story along the natural and unobstructed path of horizontal and vertical egress travel to the entrance to an exit.

Exception: In open parking garages, exit access travel distance is permitted to be measured to the closest riser of an exit access stairway or the closest slope of an exit access ramp.
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Measure along the natural and unobstructed path.... unless obstructed, do you walk at perfect right angles? I'd say that the "natural" path is straight line from A to B.

What I was told in a ICC class/seminar, if the Obstructions are not shown, you need to assume worst case. Because that is what they are going to do.
may not be this tenant but the next guy will do it and someone will not get out.

Just Like common path above.

 

[JPohling]

We always delineate the path with worst case 90 degree travel from the most remote spot. Most plan reviewers would never allow that diagonal. They all understand that obstructions will be in place.

 

[steveray]

If the furniture is fixed I would allow it and possibly if the furniture plan was posted in the room and we had some comfort on maintenance.....That being said I have everyone do it at right angles....

 

[Tim Mailloux]

I always do it a right angles, and I always show the furniture layout on my code / egress plans.

 

[ADAguy]

The key is fixed, as in bolted or pined to the floor