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Applicable Code: 2000 NFPA
Type of Construction: Type IIIB (211)
Non-sprinkled Existing Building
Three stories with one elevator
We are dealing with an old three story building built in 1944. The structure consists of reinforced concrete.
The proposed plan is to replace the non-handicap accessible elevator with a new elevator to improve accessibility along with making handicap improvements to the restrooms. New carpet, new windows, replace the boiler with a geothermal system, etc.
There is only one grand stairway that is open to all three levels.
There is one large assembly space on the third floor with a calculated occupant load slightly more than 100. It is existing and this space will remain unchanged with the exception of changing the door swing in the direction of egress and adding panic hardware to the two required exit doors. This existing assembly space (A3) is the most restrictive occupancy while all other occupancies fall into the business (B) occupancy.
The local AHJ is requiring that this existing stairway be enclosed from top to bottom, and an elevator lobby where there is not currently an elevator lobby.
Situation:
While attempting to comply with Chapter 13 of the NFPA, it appears to me that this section is not very clear what constitutes a substantial remodel that will then trigger each and every safety features that would normally be incorporated into a new building. The problem is that this building owner is attempting to make the building more code compliant but if the cost to make these improvements along with new, second stairway exceeds their budget, then this old building will remain as it is without any improvements at all.
Question #1:
Beyond new carpet and paint, to what extent can this building owner make improvements before being required to enclose the three story open stairway?
Question #2:
Beyond new carpet and paint, to what extent can this building owner make improvements before being required to add an elevator lobby?
Question #3:
Beyond new carpet and paint, to what extent can this building owner make improvements before being required to add a second stairway from the third floor assembly space?
Thank you and have a great weekend!
Type of Construction: Type IIIB (211)
Non-sprinkled Existing Building
Three stories with one elevator
We are dealing with an old three story building built in 1944. The structure consists of reinforced concrete.
The proposed plan is to replace the non-handicap accessible elevator with a new elevator to improve accessibility along with making handicap improvements to the restrooms. New carpet, new windows, replace the boiler with a geothermal system, etc.
There is only one grand stairway that is open to all three levels.
There is one large assembly space on the third floor with a calculated occupant load slightly more than 100. It is existing and this space will remain unchanged with the exception of changing the door swing in the direction of egress and adding panic hardware to the two required exit doors. This existing assembly space (A3) is the most restrictive occupancy while all other occupancies fall into the business (B) occupancy.
The local AHJ is requiring that this existing stairway be enclosed from top to bottom, and an elevator lobby where there is not currently an elevator lobby.
Situation:
While attempting to comply with Chapter 13 of the NFPA, it appears to me that this section is not very clear what constitutes a substantial remodel that will then trigger each and every safety features that would normally be incorporated into a new building. The problem is that this building owner is attempting to make the building more code compliant but if the cost to make these improvements along with new, second stairway exceeds their budget, then this old building will remain as it is without any improvements at all.
Question #1:
Beyond new carpet and paint, to what extent can this building owner make improvements before being required to enclose the three story open stairway?
Question #2:
Beyond new carpet and paint, to what extent can this building owner make improvements before being required to add an elevator lobby?
Question #3:
Beyond new carpet and paint, to what extent can this building owner make improvements before being required to add a second stairway from the third floor assembly space?
Thank you and have a great weekend!