That Inspector Guy
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Building is well over 100 years old. 3 stories w/ full basement. Basement, 1 and 2 are used as an A2 Restaurant/Bar (basement being for food prep/storage only.) Recently did a fire inspection. Has not had an inspection recently (Jurisdiction recently started fire inspections.) There is an existing manual pull station (non monitored) system, however it is not functioning, completely dead. The official occupancy load is not yet known, we are working on that but if it's not 300 it's gotta be close.
Using the IFC, 907 basically says 907.2 will be for new bldgs, 907.3 for existing bldgs. That being said, 907.2.1 says for occupant load of 300 or more, a manual pull station (non monitored) shall be installed.
Going to 4603.6 and using table 4603.1, I cannot find where a system would be required for an existing A occupancy. The table itself skips from 4603.5 to 4603.6.1......Which is where I would expect to see (using the "A" use column) that the system would be required for an A use. Then, in reading, it does not even mention A uses....4603.6.1 goes right to discussion of E uses and on....
We want them to repair the existing system, but apparently it is so antiquated that it would cost them an arm and leg. So I am trying to determine if it is even required, if not I'll have them yank it out. Maybe I am just tired today, but I can't for the life of me find where an existing A use with 300+ occupants would require the system......
Thoughts??????
Building is well over 100 years old. 3 stories w/ full basement. Basement, 1 and 2 are used as an A2 Restaurant/Bar (basement being for food prep/storage only.) Recently did a fire inspection. Has not had an inspection recently (Jurisdiction recently started fire inspections.) There is an existing manual pull station (non monitored) system, however it is not functioning, completely dead. The official occupancy load is not yet known, we are working on that but if it's not 300 it's gotta be close.
Using the IFC, 907 basically says 907.2 will be for new bldgs, 907.3 for existing bldgs. That being said, 907.2.1 says for occupant load of 300 or more, a manual pull station (non monitored) shall be installed.
Going to 4603.6 and using table 4603.1, I cannot find where a system would be required for an existing A occupancy. The table itself skips from 4603.5 to 4603.6.1......Which is where I would expect to see (using the "A" use column) that the system would be required for an A use. Then, in reading, it does not even mention A uses....4603.6.1 goes right to discussion of E uses and on....
We want them to repair the existing system, but apparently it is so antiquated that it would cost them an arm and leg. So I am trying to determine if it is even required, if not I'll have them yank it out. Maybe I am just tired today, but I can't for the life of me find where an existing A use with 300+ occupants would require the system......
Thoughts??????