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Fire-Protection-Rated vs. Fire-Resistance-Rated

LGreene

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If you're an AHJ who does plan reviews or field inspections, do you know the difference between a fire door or fire window assembly that has a fire-protection rating vs. one with a fire-resistance rating? If not, here's an article that might help (or might make your eyes glaze over): http://idighardware.com/2016/01/deco...es-march-2016/
 
If I understand your article, a "fire resistance" rating is more robust than "fire protection", because the corresponding ASTM E119 / UL 263 test for "fire resistance" (a) limits the temperature to 250F on the unexposed side of the door or window, and (b) might also include a hose stream as part of the test.

"Fire protection" does not have these same temperature and force benchmarks.

Is that correct?
 
If I understand your article, a "fire resistance" rating is more robust than "fire protection", because the corresponding ASTM E119 / UL 263 test for "fire resistance" (a) limits the temperature to 250F on the unexposed side of the door or window, and (b) might also include a hose stream as part of the test."Fire protection" does not have these same temperature and force benchmarks.

Is that correct?
Yes, that is correct as I understand it. Many of the fire-protection-rated openings also include the hose-stream test, so the temperature limitation seems to be the main difference, AND the fact that the IBC requires the rating of the fire-resistance-rated openings to be the same as the wall, rather than having an opening with a lower rating than the rating of the wall. It's not completely clear (at least not to me), but the ICC told me that a sidelight frame in a 2-hour exit enclosure wall (for example), would have a 2-hour rating, and the door would have a 90-minute rating as it would if it was in a 3-sided frame with no glazing. The exception would be if the door had fire-resistance-rated glazing and then I think both the door and the frame would have a 2-hour rating, which is not a common label.
 
Correct me if I am wrong, but I also thinks that it has to do with the ability for radiant heat to be transmitted thru the glass. An fire resistant glazing allows radiant heat to transfer thru --- example, sunlight streaming thru the glass warms the floor or carper there - (usually where a dog or a cat lays on cold days.)

Fire protected glazing blocks the ability for radiant heat to be transmitted thru the glass.

I really don't know for sure, but had heard this in a discussion and thought I would throw it out there for verification.
 
Correct me if I am wrong, but I also thinks that it has to do with the ability for radiant heat to be transmitted thru the glass. An fire resistant glazing allows radiant heat to transfer thru --- example, sunlight streaming thru the glass warms the floor or carper there - (usually where a dog or a cat lays on cold days.)Fire protected glazing blocks the ability for radiant heat to be transmitted thru the glass.

I really don't know for sure, but had heard this in a discussion and thought I would throw it out there for verification.
You are correct - there is a limit of 250 degrees of temperature differential with the fire-resistance-rated material.
 
Ms Green, you continue to do a great service to us all, for this I thank you.

Often times designers and AHJ's develop tunnel vision in their desire to get a project approved,

A fire rated glass wall on a property line seems possible when "only analyzing "fire rating" but as you have indicated, heat transfer by sunlight to an enclosed room on a 100 degree day could lead to spontaneous combustion of stored materials.
 
The way I've always understood it, fire protection ratings (for 'opening protectives') can be slightly lower because there is no fire load - or fuel - immediately around the opening protective.

Fire protection rated glazing is appropriate for opening protectives.

Fire resistance rated glazing would be appropriate for glazing that is part of a wall assembly.

JMHO.
 
Definition of spontaneous combustion

: burning that is caused by chemical actions inside of something rather than by heat from the outside

autoignition temperature

Temperature at which a substance will spontaneously ignite without the presence of a flame. Also called autoignition point.
 
BTW LG I read the article... good information. Had to stop once or twice and re-read for clarity, but that's probably my bad reading habits...
 
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