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jar546

jar546

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Is this section of the forum for Canada enough or do you need sub sections based on regions? I would be happy to set this up anyway you folks would want. Please talk amongst yourselves and let me know if we are OK as is or need to make some changes.
 
I don't think there are enough of us to justify regions at this time.

Even if we did, we would really only need
British Columbia
Ontario
Quebec
The rest of Canada

And god help you if you need help with the Quebec code. I never use that.
 
Not sure I am on board with the conversion, but that may just be the old dog new trick thing. BUT, how to you guys order a "foot"-long hot dog? A 30cm hot dog just doesn't produce a craving for me, chili and cheese or not! Plus its IMPERIAL. Like Darth Vader. Does metric have an uber cool bad guy as it's mascot?

Currently in Little Canada, surrounded by Mexican and Canadian meter users (Baja MX). I'm outnumbered so I am forced to at least try.
 
These are the units I generally use in life:

Long distance- Kilometers
Short distance- feet and inches
Building code- metric
weight- Lbs
Temp- Celsius
Oven temp- Fahrenheit
Liquids- Liters
Area- Square feet
 
tmurray said:
I don't think there are enough of us to justify regions at this time.

Even if we did, we would really only need
British Columbia
Ontario
Quebec
The rest of Canada

And god help you if you need help with the Quebec code. I never use that.
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Ain't the Free Republic of Alberta on its own code as well?

jar546 said:
Hell no. The US should have given up Imperial a long time ago.
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Verily. I'm largely bi-unitual, but working in Imperial is mindbogglingly complex. Like, I was baking cookies yesterday. The recipe called for three ounces of butter. Is that liquid ounces or mass ounces?

Calculating rise-run on stair-tread birdsmouths is *cake* in metric. How y'all do it in Imperial baffles me.
 
So who's first, Canada or Greenland? I think I'd rather have Greenland .... not as crowded.
 
Plumb-bob said:
These are the units I generally use in life:

Long distance- Kilometers
Short distance- feet and inches
Building code- metric
weight- Lbs
Temp- Celsius
Oven temp- Fahrenheit
Liquids- Liters
Area- Square feet
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PB,
What do you use to order a toque!
 
So, is the consensus to leave well enough alone with the Canadian section of the forum or add one or two categories? They can be regional or code-specific categories. I will let this stew for a bit and see what kind of feedback. It has only been one day.
 
steveray said:
Hope you are ready to give up the metric system....I would be happy to have all of you in my country....Or maybe I'll move there...We'll see how it goes...
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I think some have overestimated the desire of Canadians to become Americans (or maybe I am underestimating it, who knows). Others are offended that we wouldn't want to be American. Canada has fought and won 2 wars not to be American.

In my experience, most Canadians are as patriotic as most Americans. For the most part, we are very proud of our respective countries.
 
jar546 said:
So, is the consensus to leave well enough alone with the Canadian section of the forum or add one or two categories? They can be regional or code-specific categories. I will let this stew for a bit and see what kind of feedback. It has only been one day.
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Ain't broke, don't fix. The differences between regional codes are minimal, and the differences are easily navigated/interpreted.
 
Inspector Gadget said:
Ain't broke, don't fix. The differences between regional codes are minimal, and the differences are easily navigated/interpreted.
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The other thing to consider is we are actively working on inter-provincial and territorial harmonization of codes with a target date of 2030. In the meantime, we are slowly reducing the regional variations in our codes.

There will always be some variations as provincial and territorial ministries have objectives that need to be accomplished faster than the national code system is capable of accommodating (this is due to Codes Canada resource restrictions and a slight lack of agility). however, there is work being done in this area to align local code modification processes with the national process, so when the local changes happen the national system can build on it, rather than have to start over from scratch.

There will likely always be some small variations, but those should be reducing in number over time. This means the larger differences will be administrative. Based on this, the needs for regional sections should actually decrease rather than increase.
 
Ok then. Unless requested, I will leave the Canadian section alone, providing those north of the border are happy with how it exists. Just remember, I am always willing to customize it to your liking.
 
tmurray said:
Based on this, the needs for regional sections should actually decrease rather than increase.
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The only real differences lie in the regulations that empower Building Officials or enact the codes. That said, our legal systems and frameworks province-to-province are sufficiently similar that someone like tmurray or myself can peer into a regulation from another province and interpret it relatively well.

Further, on a national level, the common law system is, well, common. An Ontario Court of Kings Bench ruling, or an Alberta Appeals Court ruling will carry precedential weight for the nation.
 
Inspector Gadget said:
The only real differences lie in the regulations that empower Building Officials or enact the codes. That said, our legal systems and frameworks province-to-province are sufficiently similar that someone like tmurray or myself can peer into a regulation from another province and interpret it relatively well.
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The only exception being Quebec once again. Where all other provinces are based on the UK system of laws, Quebec is based on the French system. This causes fundamental differences in the constitution of their legal processes.
 
I think we should forget feet and metric and go back to rods like in the very olden days. Then we don't even need tape measures, just use our arms to measure.
 
bill1952 said:
You mean like 1 percent rather than the more likely less than half a percent?
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I've heard more than a few people on US media state "most Canadians want to become Americans"...This is not my experience, however, I have certainly heard a few Canadians say they would like to join.

Don't get me wrong, I like you all. I want good things to happy to the US and its citizens. But if I wanted to be American, I would immigrate to America.
 
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