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IBC 2012 High Hazard Group H or *EVERYBODY gets a control area *W/O orig. packaging

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sergoodo

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I'm serious - somebody needs school me.

Commercial occupant "A" buys bulk:

-hydrochloric acid - gallon at pool supply

-muratic acid - gallon at home depot

-isopropanol - quart at CVS

Commercial occupant "B" buys bulk:

hydrochloric acid - gallon at supply house

-muratic acid - gallon at supply house

-isopropanol - quart at supply house

Looks like "B" without the personal or household products in their original packaging has:

-hydrochloric acid - hazardous corrosive liquid

-muratic acid -hazardous corrosive liquid

-isopropanol - hazardous flammable liquid

"B" needs to construct a HAZARDOUS MATERIAL control area with 1hr fire barrier partitions and 2hr floor assembly and not forget to submit "A REPORT" to the building official.

1st - The codes with "exempt amounts" are lot less confusing

2nd - retail packaging GOVERNS! really? " original packaging" gotta keep the box or wrappings to comply!

3rd- Please tell me why my interpretation is wrong, REALLY.

The only "out" I interpret for poor "B" is so weak: "414.1 General. The provisions of Sections 414.1 through 414.7 shall apply to buildings and structures occupied for the manufacturing, processing, dispensing, use or storage of hazardous materials." "B" has a restoration business in a small building. ****The building is occupied for restoring old things, not occupied for hazardous materials.**** The problem I have is that he sometimes uses the hazardous materials and during that time he is occupying the building. THEREFORE he occupied the building for the use of hazardous materials. Storing in the building does not help the interpretation. I interpret that the building has to be occupied "exclusively" for the manufacturing, processing, ... before 414.1 through 414.7 apply.

Meanwhile Commercial Occupant "A" is super compliant with the code because he has kept the original retail packaging and has documentation that isopropanol can be classified as a corrosive. "A" owns a restaurant and believes regularly pouring the combination of chemicals into the rat infested storm sewer is an effective rodent control plan.
 
Not following the question

I am thinking though there is a lot of info left out of the question

And a few variables
 
The one gallon plastic jug IS the 'retail packaging' you seem to be hung up on. My bigger concern is the cocktail that 'A' uses as drain cleaner/rat prevention.
 
[F] 414.1 General. The provisions of Sections 414.1 through

414.7 shall apply to buildings and structures occupied for the

manufacturing, processing, dispensing, use or storage of hazardous

materials.

If you use hazardous materials, then these code provisions apply.
 
Some more bulk storage entertainment, now with the addition of coherent thought...

2012 IBC 307.1 High-hazard Group H
exception # 6. Liquor stores and distributors without bulk storage

Sitting on a shelf in a liquor Distributors facility is a case of Glenlivet; with 12 bottles in the box each packaged for retail. Some would call that bulk storage of liquor. This is not correct, a case of Glenlivet does not qualify as bulk storage. 12 cases of Glenlivet on that shelf does not qualify as bulk storage. This liquor distributor facility shall not be classified as Group H occupancy. This facility is a Group S?

Comments and disagreements are more than welcome.
 
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