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interim exit plan

jim baird

jim baird

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I have done a lot of plans review, but have not seen any that include an "interim" exit plan where a building addition will occlude existing exits for some duration.

Building is a school, in session. Local fire chief contacted me re contractor's query about the permissibility of interim elimination of an exit. It would create more dead end and longer path of common travel than codes allow. I agreed with fire chief that contractor/architect will have to devise a plan for temporary exit.

Anyone here see such an interim plan before?
 
Many times

May need to convert window in end class room to an exit with temp door and stairs and put panic hardware on the hall to classroom door with signage
 
Yes. A school addition. It was tough, they had to limit the use of the second story, and cut the gym in half to have kids in class there.
 
Have one right now on a medical office renovation. Put a temporary door to the public corridor and made an office into a temporary corridor in the suite.
 
Definitely, i require one when the remodel voids the existing exit plan. submit for approval prior to starting work.
 
See IFC 1411.2 for provision prescribing maintenance of means of egress during construction and demolition, remodeling or alterations and additions to any building. There is an exception for approved temporary means of egress systems and facilities.
 
Yes many many times

Look at how long

Is staff aware

Sometimes do require additional exiting, and sometimes live with the blocked exit

Case by case eval
 
Thanks for replies. I assume that the designer did not know what time frame the job would occupy, and whether building would be occupied during progress, ergo no sheet for temp exits. I think contractor was looking for expedience. It should not that difficult to throw together something akin to sidewalk protection of public way common in urban settings.

FM Burns, we use NFPA 101 2000 as primary reference for exits. My copy has no chapter 43.
 
Our local hospital does it frequently, they draw up a simple one page 8 1/2" X 11" drawing showing the temp. exit route with dimensions, email it to me for approval, and then I walk the site when everything is in place.
 
jim baird,

Look in Ch. 15 & 7 of the 2000 edition of the NFPA-101.

Ch. 15 is for existing Educational Occupancies, Section 15.2.6 - Travel distance to exits,

Ch. 7 - Means of Egress.

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Sorry JB I didn't realize that you were using the 00 edition. Chapter 43 was introduced into the 06 edition. You can view at NFPA.org for free as detailed in other threads. Chapter 43 is:

Chapter 43 Building Rehabilitation

43.1 General. [/url]

43.1.1 Classification of Rehabilitation Work Categories. Rehabilitation work on existing buildings shall be classified as one of the following work categories:

http://codesonline.nfpa.org/a/c.ref/2006_ID00010144562/sec

http://codesonline.nfpa.org/a/c.ref/2006_ID00010144562/sec43.1.2.2 Any building undergoing change of use or change of occupancy classification (see http://codesonline.nfpa.org/a/c.ref/2006_ID00010144570/sec43.2.2.1.5 and http://codesonline.nfpa.org/a/c.ref/2006_ID00010144572/sec43.2.2.1.6) shall comply with the requirements of Section http://codesonline.nfpa.org/a/c.ref/2006_ID00010144700/sec43.7.

http://codesonline.nfpa.org/a/c.ref/2006_ID00010144562/sec43.1.2.3 Any building undergoing addition (see http://codesonline.nfpa.org/a/c.ref/2006_ID00010144574/sec43.2.2.1.7) shall comply with the requirements of Section http://codesonline.nfpa.org/a/c.ref/2006_ID00010144761/sec43.8. (etc....)
 
We had to do when we had two buildings that were literally connected and one was being demolished. Its existing egress was through the building being demolished. Very interesting issue to resolve.
 
Thanks FM Burns. This project is not exactly a rehab one, it being strictly an addition, like a caboose being put on the end of a train, the end being where the required exit is. I had been ready to post the following about the mysterious Chapter 43.

Forty-five years ago I spent the summer as a Scout camp counselor. Down on the waterfront the guys loved to tell tales of sending what scouts call "tenderfeet" on step'n'fetchit errands up the hill a half mile or so to the quartermaster's shed to bring back items such as keys for the oarlocks, tubs of canoe grease, and spools of shoreline. I think that's where they keep Life Safety Chapter 43 as well.
 
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