jar546
CBO
What are your thoughts on this?
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Is this a code violation or a user problem?
- Thread starter jar546
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Yikes
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If there was no gutter or downspout, and rainwater dripped freely off the eave, would it be a code problem?
If “no”, then does gathering that same rainwater into a smaller area (downspout) make it a code problem?
If “no”, then does gathering that same rainwater into a smaller area (downspout) make it a code problem?
TheCommish
SAWHORSE
plan shows to be taken care of by "others"
MtnArch
SAWHORSE
"Missed the sink by that much!"
mark handler
SAWHORSE
P2912.5
Gutters and downspouts shall be constructed of materials that are compatible with the collection surface and the rainwater quality for the desired end use. Joints shall be watertight.P2912.5.1
Roof gutters, leaders and rainwater collection piping shall slope continuously toward collection inlets and shall be free of leaks. Gutters and downspouts shall have a slope of not less than 1/8 inch per foot (10.4 mm/m) along their entire length. Gutters and downspouts shall be installed so that water does not pool at any point.MAYBE THE "DESIRED USE" IS TO CLEAN THE COUNTER AND APPLIANCES....
arwat23
SAWHORSE
It's sustainable design if anything. Recycling water for other uses.
If it is a code violation, just install this and you should be good to go:
Right?
Right?
It is debatable as to a code violation but there is no questioning the user problem.
steveray
SAWHORSE
I really expected to find something in the IRC but...I had to go to the IPC instead....
1101.2
Rainwater from roofs and storm water from paved areas, yards, courts and courtyards shall drain to an approved place of disposal. For one- and two-family dwellings, and where approved, storm water is permitted to discharge onto flat areas, such as streets or lawns, provided that the storm water flows away from the building.1101.3
Storm water shall not be drained into sewers intended for sewage only.
Paul Sweet
SAWHORSE
It's both.
Even if they could successfully fight you on IBC 1101.2&3, it would violate almost all state or local sewage regulations.
Even if they could successfully fight you on IBC 1101.2&3, it would violate almost all state or local sewage regulations.
mtlogcabin
SAWHORSE
It is not a user problem as long as they don't use the outdoor kitchen when it is raining
texasinspector
Member
IRC R903.4 (Roof Drainage): Requires roof drainage to discharge at approved locations away from the structure.
IRC M1307.3: Appliances shall be installed so as not to be subject to damage from flooding, drainage, or condensate. Discharging a downspout directly onto outdoor kitchen appliances violates this.
IRC R703.1.1: Exterior coverings must protect against water infiltration. Allowing roof runoff to discharge onto cabinetry defeats this requirement.
IRC R317.1(3): Wood used in locations exposed to weather or subject to water splash must be preservative treated or naturally durable. Standard outdoor kitchen bases and cabinets are not intended for continuous roof runoff exposure.
NEC 110.11 (2023 NEC, adopted in Texas): Electrical equipment must be installed in a manner that protects it from deterioration from moisture.
NEC 422.31 & 422.5: Outdoor appliances (e.g., grills with electric igniters, refrigerators, ice makers) require GFCI protection and must be protected from water. Roof water discharge is incompatible with this.
Defies logic bordering on s-t-u-p-i-d-i-t-y, which is somehow not addressed in the codes.