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MEZZANINE USED ONLY FOR STORAGE

Nicole Brooks

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A building that I am working on has an existing mezzanine that was permitted. The mezzanine is used only for storage. The existing common path of travel exceeds 100'. Are there any exceptions in the code that allow the common path of travel to be disregarded for storage mezzanines? I understand that for equipment and mechanical platforms that the common path of travel does not apply. Does this also include storage mezzanines? Also, if the mezzanine was previously permitted and approved by the county, does that matter? Can I just gray out the mezzanine on the plans and include the note "not in contract"?
 
If it is already "approved"....it should be no concern of yours.....You may advise your client of a potential non-compliance that may come up as an issue, but excluding it from your scope should also be allowable...
 
If it is already "approved"....it should be no concern of yours.....You may advise your client of a potential non-compliance that may come up as an issue, but excluding it from your scope should also be allowable...
Thanks Steveray, and yes, I have made the client aware. Are you aware of any exceptions that actually allow for a disregard of common path of travel for storage mezzanines, or did the county just miss it?
 
Missed it or not required under the code it was constructed under.
COP was never a requirement in the Legacy Codes and is not mentioned in the IEBC.

What compliance method from the IEBC are you using

503.1 General.
Except as provided by Section 302.4, 302.5 or this section, alterations to any building or structure shall comply with the requirements of the International Building Code for new construction. Alterations shall be such that the existing building or structure is not less complying with the provisions of the International Building Code than the existing building or structure was prior to the alteration.

SECTION 704
MEANS OF EGRESS

704.1 General.
Alterations shall be done in a manner that maintains the level of protection provided for the means of egress.

Level 2.
805.3.2 Mezzanines.
Mezzanines in the work area and with an occupant load of more than 50 or in which the travel distance to an exit exceeds 75 feet (22 860 mm) shall have access to not fewer than two independent means of egress.

Exception: Two independent means of egress are not required where the travel distance to an exit does not exceed 100 feet (30 480 mm) and the building is protected throughout with an automatic sprinkler system.

Level 3 refers back to Level 2

Change of Occupancy
1011.4.2 Means of egress for change of use to an equal or lower-hazard category.
Where a change of occupancy classification is made to an equal or lesser-hazard category (higher number) as shown in Table 1011.4, existing elements of the means of egress shall comply with the requirements of Section 905 for the new occupancy classification. Newly constructed or configured means of egress shall comply with the requirements of Chapter 10 of the International Building Code.
 
Missed it or not required under the code it was constructed under.
COP was never a requirement in the Legacy Codes and is not mentioned in the IEBC.

What compliance method from the IEBC are you using

503.1 General.
Except as provided by Section 302.4, 302.5 or this section, alterations to any building or structure shall comply with the requirements of the International Building Code for new construction. Alterations shall be such that the existing building or structure is not less complying with the provisions of the International Building Code than the existing building or structure was prior to the alteration.

SECTION 704
MEANS OF EGRESS

704.1 General.
Alterations shall be done in a manner that maintains the level of protection provided for the means of egress.

Level 2.
805.3.2 Mezzanines.
Mezzanines in the work area and with an occupant load of more than 50 or in which the travel distance to an exit exceeds 75 feet (22 860 mm) shall have access to not fewer than two independent means of egress.

Exception: Two independent means of egress are not required where the travel distance to an exit does not exceed 100 feet (30 480 mm) and the building is protected throughout with an automatic sprinkler system.

Level 3 refers back to Level 2

Change of Occupancy
1011.4.2 Means of egress for change of use to an equal or lower-hazard category.
Where a change of occupancy classification is made to an equal or lesser-hazard category (higher number) as shown in Table 1011.4, existing elements of the means of egress shall comply with the requirements of Section 905 for the new occupancy classification. Newly constructed or configured means of egress shall comply with the requirements of Chapter 10 of the International Building Code.
This is not an old building, and the mezzanine was installed just a few years back.
 
It was added a few years later, and initially the tenant did it without a permit. Once the building owner discovered it, they made them permit it, so it was approved by AHJ.
 
A building that I am working on has an existing mezzanine that was permitted. The mezzanine is used only for storage. The existing common path of travel exceeds 100'. Are there any exceptions in the code that allow the common path of travel to be disregarded for storage mezzanines? I understand that for equipment and mechanical platforms that the common path of travel does not apply. Does this also include storage mezzanines? Also, if the mezzanine was previously permitted and approved by the county, does that matter? Can I just gray out the mezzanine on the plans and include the note "not in contract"?

This is an existing building. The mezzanine was apparently permitted after the fact and should not have been. It's a fundamental principle that a building official cannot approve a violation, so if the mezzanine is in violation -- it's in violation.

That said -- if you are the architect and your commission is interior alterations, I was going to say that if you use the work area method under the IEBC the mezzanine may not be within the work area, so you don't have to worry about it. However, according to UpCodes neither Maryland nor Baltimore has adopted the IEBC, so how does your code deal with alterations?
 
It's actually a project in Virginia, and yes, there is no work being done in the warehouse.
So you don't own it just the owner and building department and fire department get sued when someone dies....

I have had people wall off or install racking at the far end of a few mezzanines to get CPET or TD to work in the past....
 
Pretty sure that the building department never gets sued...
Not quite the same but...2 family WITHOUT permits (fatal fire) and the Town was found liable....Similar suit going on now with a pool and a child fatality...Going to happen more and more when people realize that we have the best insurance....

Jan. 17, 1996.​



SKOLNICK.

* This action arises out of a fire that occurred in West Haven, Connecticut, on or about December 13, 1994. The fire caused the deaths of Carol Curley, and her husband Raymond M. Curley. The fire also caused injuries to their son Michael A. Curley, who has brought a claim for bystander emotional distress. The complaint essentially alleges that the city was partially responsible for the deaths of the decedents because the dwelling where the fire occurred was an illegal two-family home, and the city did not ensure that the dwelling complied with building codes, electrical codes, housing codes and fire codes. (Complaint, First Count, Paragraph Five.)



The defendant, City of West Haven, filed a motion to strike on August 8, 1995. The plaintiffs filed a memorandum in opposition on August 23, 1995.
 
This subject raises a larger question for me, as to what the responsibility is of an architect working on an existing building. If the work they are doing only pertains to a certain area of the building, but casually notice non-code compliance in another area of the building, what is their legal responsibility? Is notifying the owner in writing enough? Should one ignore it completely? I have a friend who is also an architect and it is his opinion that if the issue is not under the area that was contracted, it is not the architect's problem, they had no reason to look at any other areas.
 
It's actually a project in Virginia, and yes, there is no work being done in the warehouse.

Virginia has adopted the 2021 IEBC, so that should be your starting point. If you are not familiar with the IEBC, it offers three paths ("methods") for code compliance: the Prescriptive Method, the Work Area Method (which is where Level 1, Level 2, and Level 3 come into play), and the Performance Method. The applicant gets to choose the path that is most advantageous to them. You cannot mix and match between methods.

If your code analysis didn't start in the IEBC, you're doing it wrong.
 
This subject raises a larger question for me, as to what the responsibility is of an architect working on an existing building. If the work they are doing only pertains to a certain area of the building, but casually notice non-code compliance in another area of the building, what is their legal responsibility? Is notifying the owner in writing enough? Should one ignore it completely? I have a friend who is also an architect and it is his opinion that if the issue is not under the area that was contracted, it is not the architect's problem, they had no reason to look at any other areas.

It's not a question of having a reason to look -- it's a question of whether or not you looked. If you don't look, you can't be faulted for what you didn't know. If you look -- you know.

A good many years ago I was project architect for the exterior rehabilitation of a high-rise condominium building. It had two levels of underground parking, then one level of offices, topped by seven (or maybe it was eight) stories of residential condo units. In the course of looking into something, I wandered into the office level interior and discovered that the design FAR exceeded the allowable common path of exit access travel distance.

We were working for the condo association, which was suing the developer/builder over alleged construction defects. (They later won several million dollars -- it was a mess), so our first step was to notify the association's attorney and to tell him that we felt we had an affirmative duty to report that violation to the building official. The attorney agreed, whereupon we sent a letter to the building official informing him of what we had found.

We received the following in a reply letter: "This office is not aware of any violations at the subject premises."

Legally, since we had notified the building department, they WERE aware of the violation, but that's not the point. We had done out duty by informing our client and the authority having jurisdiction. Our client had done the right thing by directing us to report it the AHJ. If the AHJ chose to take a head-in-the-sand approach ... hey, not my problem. I did what I was supposed to do.

My state has a code of ethics for architects in law. It's not a statute, it's a state regulation adopted pursuant to a statute. The section that seems to apply, to my condo issue and also perhaps here, reads as follows:

(3) If, in the course of the architect's work on a project, an architect becomes aware of a decision taken by the architect's employer or client, against the architect's advice, which violates any applicable statute or regulation and materially affects adversely the safety to the public of the finished project, then the architect shall report the decision to the appropriate enforcement officials or refuse to consent to the decision and terminate the architect's service with reference to the project. Said termination shall excuse any liability to the architect's client on account of such termination.

I take a broad view of that. Remember, architects are licensed by the states in order to (supposedly) help ensure that buildings are safe. Consequently, I interpret the above section of the code of ethics to mean that I have an affirmative duty to do something about any condition that could adversely affect safety. Since the building code is the minimum standard for safe buildings, any violation is de facto unsafe, so if I become aware of it as an architect I have a duty to bring it to someone's attention.

Your state may not have a legal code of ethics for architects or, if it does, it probably reads differently.
 
This subject raises a larger question for me, as to what the responsibility is of an architect working on an existing building. If the work they are doing only pertains to a certain area of the building, but casually notice non-code compliance in another area of the building, what is their legal responsibility? Is notifying the owner in writing enough? Should one ignore it completely? I have a friend who is also an architect and it is his opinion that if the issue is not under the area that was contracted, it is not the architect's problem, they had no reason to look at any other areas.
Also, assume the building is fairly new, within range of when IBC came into effect.
 
Yankee Chronicler said it best. You can't personally fix the violation, so you have to tell people who have the power to fix it. The owner and the building official.
 
Do you keep working for the owner if they refuse to fix it or withdraw from the project?

It may depend on the state. As I posted above, my state has a code of ethics in the state regulations governing the practice of architecture. This isn't a voluntary code of ethics -- it's state law:

(3) If, in the course of the architect's work on a project, an architect becomes aware of a decision taken by the architect's employer or client, against the architect's advice, which violates any applicable statute or regulation and materially affects adversely the safety to the public of the finished project, then the architect shall report the decision to the appropriate enforcement officials or refuse to consent to the decision and terminate the architect's service with reference to the project. Said termination shall excuse any liability to the architect's client on account of such termination.

What this means is that if the architect terminates his/her/their services, by law they are clear of responsibility/liability for the violation. If they don't terminate -- they own the liability (along with the client).

It's a very sticky situation for an architect, because what it means is that the law requires the architect to rat out his/her/their own client. It's definitely going to make it more difficult to collect that last payment, because a client will probably not willingly pay an architect who turned them in over a building code violation.

Coming back full circle to the situation in the opening post, the project is an alteration. If there's no work on the mezzanine, if the work area is less than 50% of the total building area then call it a level 2 alteration, make certain that the work area is properly delineated so it doesn't include the mezzanine, and the mezzanine becomes a non-issue (for the purposes on this permit).
 

Write an exclusion in your contract that excludes previously unpermitted work, or work outside of your scope of work.
Therefore, if the jurisdiction catches it, you ask for more money from your client.

After all, I'm assuming your bringing this up online is really if you have to do more legwork, and not getting paid for it. This is why writing a good contract is important.
 
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