jllcc
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I've read some other posts on here concerning the general topic but would like some feedback specific to a project and interested to hear feedback on a discrepancy between the IBC and ADA:
Scope:
Interior remodel of existing two story building, each floor over 4000 sq. ft. The interior renovation is being completed in two phases. The only alterations being performed during the first phase to the facility are on the first floor (only about 2000 sq. ft. being altered on first floor), no work whatsoever is occurring on the second floor. Existing second floor currently consists of multiple rooms, tenant plans to use 3 of them as offices (temporarily until second phase begins which will essentially be a complete gut of the second floor), the remaining 12+ rooms will be storage or not used. This was indicated on the plans per the intended use. There are two non ADA compliant restrooms on second floor, no water fountains.
Question:
Is an elevator required? Plan reviewer made note that per "section 1104 accessible route required to all primary functions = elevator or lift required"
Code references:
2015 IBC 1104.4 - For new construction, an accessible route connecting the stories would be required since it exceeds the 3000 sq. ft. exception.
2015 IEBC 705.2 - The terms 'alteration' and 'primary function' are important. One can argue that no 'alteration' is taking place on the second floor and that the 'primary function' of the facility will take place on the first floor. However, the fact that there are offices upstairs could be considered a primary function. The 20% of cost exception would likely apply to this project since the construction valuation is around 100k (this is technically the main reason why I determined an elevator would not be required).
2010 ADA 206.2.3 - exception - "In private buildings or facilities that are less than three stories or that have less than 3000 square feet (279 m2) per story, an accessible route shall not be required to connect stories". Interesting thing here is that ADA states three stories OR less than 3000. However, the IBC states only an exception for less than 3000 sq. ft. not for the # of stories. Per the ADA less that 3 stories exception, an accessible route would not be required.
Although my main questions concerns the elevator, any comments on whether the second floor restrooms would need to be brought up to ADA standards although no alterations are occurring on the second floor? If and 'alteration' is being performed to only one story and not the others, does it still trigger the same requirements for all stories?
Thoughts/Comments? Thanks in advance!
Scope:
Interior remodel of existing two story building, each floor over 4000 sq. ft. The interior renovation is being completed in two phases. The only alterations being performed during the first phase to the facility are on the first floor (only about 2000 sq. ft. being altered on first floor), no work whatsoever is occurring on the second floor. Existing second floor currently consists of multiple rooms, tenant plans to use 3 of them as offices (temporarily until second phase begins which will essentially be a complete gut of the second floor), the remaining 12+ rooms will be storage or not used. This was indicated on the plans per the intended use. There are two non ADA compliant restrooms on second floor, no water fountains.
Question:
Is an elevator required? Plan reviewer made note that per "section 1104 accessible route required to all primary functions = elevator or lift required"
Code references:
2015 IBC 1104.4 - For new construction, an accessible route connecting the stories would be required since it exceeds the 3000 sq. ft. exception.
2015 IEBC 705.2 - The terms 'alteration' and 'primary function' are important. One can argue that no 'alteration' is taking place on the second floor and that the 'primary function' of the facility will take place on the first floor. However, the fact that there are offices upstairs could be considered a primary function. The 20% of cost exception would likely apply to this project since the construction valuation is around 100k (this is technically the main reason why I determined an elevator would not be required).
2010 ADA 206.2.3 - exception - "In private buildings or facilities that are less than three stories or that have less than 3000 square feet (279 m2) per story, an accessible route shall not be required to connect stories". Interesting thing here is that ADA states three stories OR less than 3000. However, the IBC states only an exception for less than 3000 sq. ft. not for the # of stories. Per the ADA less that 3 stories exception, an accessible route would not be required.
Although my main questions concerns the elevator, any comments on whether the second floor restrooms would need to be brought up to ADA standards although no alterations are occurring on the second floor? If and 'alteration' is being performed to only one story and not the others, does it still trigger the same requirements for all stories?
Thoughts/Comments? Thanks in advance!