All from brudgers, all in the same thread, all individual posts, all directly to Mr Softy, a new member, who was having a legitimate code discussion. Look at Rooster, Tim, MT, JBI and others in the same thread. None of them agreed, but were respectful. Brudgers was relentless, and yes the attacks were personal. AS I said, Softy apparently is a little thin skinned, but he didn't deserve this:
"Or to put it another way, why are you inclined to interpret the code as if the public is your enemy?"
"Of course, it's not likely you're interested in actually approving the plans given that your argument hinges on the absurdity that 35% is close to 50%."
"I can tell that you prefer to err.
It comes with having someone else to ultimately take responsibility for getting it right.
The "You can always appeal" my decision approach, is what I call "holding the permit hostage."
Like Inspector's remorse, it is another common practice with code officials. "
"Getting inside a decision loop like yours is trivial."
"You're pushing an agenda which goes beyond code requirements.
And treating the building code like mere suggestions in the process.
As it has become apparent, making something up and holding the permit hostage when the code doesn't say what you want it to say appears to be your M.O."
" As if further evidence that you rely on holding the permit hostage to your made up requirements was needed.
"And unsurprisingly, they don't have carte blanche to make stuff up.
Even when they think they do.
As any city attorney will tell you."
" By "we" you must mean, you and the mouse in your pocket"
"The only reason that you have an issue with that approach is because you are pushing an agenda rather than enforcing the building code. Holding the permit hostage is how you forward your agenda and your rationale is that the public is your enemy."
"Just to break your heart.
Seriously, every one of your posts falls into the same pattern.
"I know what the code says - but..."
We can only hope that one day fairness and justice replace your personal agenda and willingness to break the law. "
"Those whose personal agenda requires making the public dance to their whims, feel they are."
"And despite your wishing the world was full of rainbows and unicorns"
Again, this isn't brudgers and Uncle Bob having a go at it, this is brudgers clearly bullying a new guy who was trying to conduct a legitimate, rational discussion.
Uncalled for.
jar546 said:
I would like to know what part of the posts were personal attacks?There are cocky statements, there are brash comments and then there are personal attacks.
What is the consensus for the legitimacy of the complaint about this thread?
I am wondering if Brudgers would have spoken in such a manner at a professional meeting concerning one of his projects. The relevance is how one conducts themselves in person vs. behind a keyboard and monitor.
The moderators will be called to a private thread to discuss this particular thread.