Nice.. I didn't even see that.. the joists are definitely skewed!KZQuixote said:I believe Ice's pointing out the layout error, which would be easy enough to fix. OR the carpenter could just lay a full sheet at the end and cover the mistake up.Bill
Yes, you can.TimNY said:You can't use sawn lumber between the engineered joists like that.
Not skewed enough to worry.TimNY said:Nice.. I didn't even see that.. the joists are definitely skewed!
It's probably to attach GWB at that corner.KZQuixote said:I believe Ice's pointing out the layout error, which would be easy enough to fix. OR the carpenter could just lay a full sheet at the end and cover the mistake up. Nobody cares about the rockers anyway, Right?
Bill
Page 3 of the install directions:alora said:Yes, you can.
My mistake.TimNY said:Page 3 of the install directions:DO NOT use sawn lumber for
rim board or blocking as it
may shrink after installation.
Use only engineered lumber.
No, you can't.
My money will go on the manufacturer's instructions being referenced in the code and thus become part of it.alora said:My mistake.Thought we were on a building codes forum.
And mine goes to the structural engineer reviewing and taking no exceptions to the shop drawing submittals.KZQuixote said:My money will go on the manufacturer's instructions being referenced in the code and thus become part of it.Bill
So, you have authority to deny something in the field if it's an engineered detail and a permit was issued?TimNY said:Yes, if the moon is in the 4th quarter, the planets are aligned and it's Tuesday, the blocking can be approved.
When something goes wrong that warrants the manufacturer to come out, it will more than likely be the engineer stating: "The owner/tenant exceeded the allowable load capacity of the mezzanine."That way when something goes wrong and the manufacturer comes out, the engineer can say, "the contractor should have read the instructions."
Again, because it can be done.Why would you choose to violate the instalalation instructions and use solid blocking when they could use the scrap cutoffs or an engineered rim to serve the same purpose?
I have the authority to ask the engineer to substantiate his drawings. Which, just as you assume it will be approved, I assume when brought to his attention will changed by the engineer to reflect the installation instructions.alora said:So, you have authority to deny something in the field if it's an engineered detail and a permit was issued?When something goes wrong that warrants the manufacturer to come out, it will more than likely be the engineer stating: "The owner/tenant exceeded the allowable load capacity of the mezzanine."
Again, because it can be done.
Never was it said that it was right or wrong.
Probably would do some good to hang around industrial projects a bit.
Are you saying that the shop drawings called for solid wood blocking and the plans reviewer missed it? I've seen many such shop drawings, for the manufacturer to spec a product that was not compatible especially when they can sell the correct blocking, is very unlikely.alora said:And mine goes to the structural engineer reviewing and taking no exceptions to the shop drawing submittals.
I need more explanation for the layout error, what is it?KZQuixote said:I believe Ice's pointing out the layout error, which would be easy enough to fix. OR the carpenter could just lay a full sheet at the end and cover the mistake up. Nobody cares about the rockers anyway, Right?
Bill
Yankee, check the joists closest to you versus the ones further away. Think "joist on wrong side of the line", although it looks like more.Yankee said:I need more explanation for the layout error, what is it?
I'm not perzactly sure, but if you look at the layout of the joists in the span further away you'll see that they are not evenly spaced (look at the hangers). It's not as simple as the wrong blocks are nailed in the wrong bays (check out the parallel layouts on the ends of this span).Yankee said:I need more explanation for the layout error, what is it?