Parking what is and what is not required?

[tbz]

Seems to be the week to talk about Parking!

So I have been dragged in by the board to help solve some issues to finish up a pole barn our club is building for indoor archery, and we have some site issues, but here is my main questions I am looking for a little feed back on.

• We already have a parking lot on the campus 100 plus acres,
• When the architect drew up the prints he thought it would be great to just add in another whole parking area that is under 100 yards away from the main parking.
  • We don't want to remove all this grass, we are an outdoors club, just to spend money on more pave area that we already have 100 yards away.
• We do have 2 compliant ADA spots, 1 Van & 1 Car, flanking the entry door to the building, with the required accessible route
• But if we have plenty of parking on the rest of the property to serve members, is there anything that says I have to have the parking next to the building.

Obviously, I want to scrape the whole parking area except the 2 ADA spots.

Project located in, eastern central PA, so above 78 below 80, for the JAR and those familiar with the territory

 

[e hilton]

Is 2 accessible spaces enough for the total number of spaces? Other than that, i would say you are ok.

 

[mark handler]

Do you have adequate Parking?
Building Code 2018 of Pennsylvania
Section 1106 Parking and Passenger Loading Facilities
1106.1 Required
Where parking is provided, accessible parking spaces shall be provided in compliance with Table 1106.1, except as required by Sections 1106.2 through 1106.4. Where more than one parking facility is provided on a site, the number of parking spaces required to be accessible shall be calculated separately for each parking facility
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[tbz]

MArk,

I get the whole calc and know we don't need to put the parking down there, but it is simpler to put (2) ADA spaces there then provide an accessible route over hill and dale.

I guess the more direct questions is, if we put the (2) ADA slots at the building, is it fine not to have the other spots, reverse discrimination?

We have plenty of parking and spots on campus, and we prefer grass over asphalt.

 

[mtlogcabin]

Parking requirements are regulated by the AHJ not the ADA or the building codes. Once you know the number of spaces required and where they are required/approved on site then the accessible parking comes into play. Can you exceed that number and provide additional and reserved parking as management sees fit? Yes you can

As for "reverse discrimination" there is no such thing. Life is full of decisions based on preference or discrimination it is the reason/thought behind a decision that determines the difference.

 

[Paul Sweet]

The number of parking spaces on a site is usually governed by zoning codes. You should be OK as long as you have an adequate number of accessible spaces.

 

[Christine]

You can provide the minimum number of spaces required by the AHJ and then use your grassy areas for overflow parking as you need it. Also, I believe you will be required to provide van-accessible space(s) as well.

 

[steveray]

No parking, no accessible parking so if you are keeping the 2 You are absolutely good....

 

[Jean Tessmer-HI]

ADA and drive to sites: 2010 Standards, at sections 206.2.1 and 206.2.2, require that at least one accessible route be provided within the site from site arrival points to an accessible building entrance and that at least one accessible route connect accessible facilities on the same site. The 2010 Standards also add two exceptions that exempt site arrival points and accessible facilities within a site from the accessible route requirements where the only means of access between them is a vehicular way that does not provide pedestrian access.

In all the cases I have worked on if there is not a public sidewalk to an existing site, the public access route in non-existent and it is a drive to site only. Lawsuits did not trigger installing a accessible public way to the site.