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Plan Review question
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globe trekker
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Re: Plan Review question
What is your definition of a " multi-city review " ?
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What is your definition of a " multi-city review " ?
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vegas paul
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Re: Plan Review question
Is this a request for a generic, standard plan? One that could be "pre-approved" for use in multiple jurisdictions? Sounds unworkable to me, unless the request is for specific (maybe side-by-side) jurisdictions that use the same code amendments, etc.
I get lots of "standard" plans submitted that wind up getting a long correction letter! In-&-Out Burger, Home Depot, Wal-Mart, Walgreens, etc. all have standard plans done by one designer out of state, but they never get approved on first try...
Is this a request for a generic, standard plan? One that could be "pre-approved" for use in multiple jurisdictions? Sounds unworkable to me, unless the request is for specific (maybe side-by-side) jurisdictions that use the same code amendments, etc.
I get lots of "standard" plans submitted that wind up getting a long correction letter! In-&-Out Burger, Home Depot, Wal-Mart, Walgreens, etc. all have standard plans done by one designer out of state, but they never get approved on first try...
Re: Plan Review question
""""One that could be "pre-approved" for use in multiple jurisdictions""""" and the sections of the plans arch, struc, mep are reviewed by several cities using the I codes, and submitter understands that a city may still add to it when it actualy comes to thier city, but my thinking is the owner will not want the add ons or try to push that other citeies have reviewed it and blessed it with a concensus of comments..
""""One that could be "pre-approved" for use in multiple jurisdictions""""" and the sections of the plans arch, struc, mep are reviewed by several cities using the I codes, and submitter understands that a city may still add to it when it actualy comes to thier city, but my thinking is the owner will not want the add ons or try to push that other citeies have reviewed it and blessed it with a concensus of comments..
vegas paul
Silver Member
Re: Plan Review question
This may be redundant to what I wrote above, but I get lots of large chain-store submittals that have been built in other cities (presumably) according to the submitted plans. I do a complete review, and often have tons of corrections. I don't believe that my correction requests generally fall into the category of local amendments, generally the plans have flaws that may or may not have been caught when submitted to other jurisdictions.
I ignore any claims of "pre-approved" plans that have been approved elsewhere. I don't know if someone is trying to pull on over on me, or the plans have never been reviewed by a competent plan reviewer, but ultimately, they get a thorough local review by me prior to approval.
In answer to your original question, I don't see any value (to the applicant) for having any kind of multi-city or pre-approved plans, since each jurisdiction should perform their own review. The only exception to this might be adjacent jurisdictions that have an interlocul agreement for projects of this type, and have an agreement to similar code interpretations/compliance. Perhaps if a smaller (understaffed) jurisdiction adjacent to a larger one both had Target stores coming, they could arrange this, but in general, what's the point or value?
This may be redundant to what I wrote above, but I get lots of large chain-store submittals that have been built in other cities (presumably) according to the submitted plans. I do a complete review, and often have tons of corrections. I don't believe that my correction requests generally fall into the category of local amendments, generally the plans have flaws that may or may not have been caught when submitted to other jurisdictions.
I ignore any claims of "pre-approved" plans that have been approved elsewhere. I don't know if someone is trying to pull on over on me, or the plans have never been reviewed by a competent plan reviewer, but ultimately, they get a thorough local review by me prior to approval.
In answer to your original question, I don't see any value (to the applicant) for having any kind of multi-city or pre-approved plans, since each jurisdiction should perform their own review. The only exception to this might be adjacent jurisdictions that have an interlocul agreement for projects of this type, and have an agreement to similar code interpretations/compliance. Perhaps if a smaller (understaffed) jurisdiction adjacent to a larger one both had Target stores coming, they could arrange this, but in general, what's the point or value?
JBI
Registered User
Re: Plan Review question
What Jake said, for the reasons stated by V Paul. Bad idea. Don't believe everything you hear, especially about 'other' jurisdictions.
What Jake said, for the reasons stated by V Paul. Bad idea. Don't believe everything you hear, especially about 'other' jurisdictions.
Re: Plan Review question
vegas paul
on personal level agree agree agree
Pcinspector1
Sounds like there tring to streamline the permit process. Will you still charge the applicant a plan review fee if you use pre-approved plans?
good question above my pay grade
vegas paul
on personal level agree agree agree
Pcinspector1
Sounds like there tring to streamline the permit process. Will you still charge the applicant a plan review fee if you use pre-approved plans?
good question above my pay grade
JBI
Registered User
Re: Plan Review question
cda - "good question above my pay grade" Spoken like a true military man!
cda - "good question above my pay grade" Spoken like a true military man!
JBI
Registered User
Re: Plan Review question
Did they teach you 'DTA'?
Did they teach you 'DTA'?