LGreene
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The IBC has a grey area that I'm going to try to address in the next code change cycle, but I'd love your input on what you would require with the code as-is.
4-story stairs can have fail-safe electrified locks that lock on the stair side, as long as they can be remotely unlocked by a switch at the fire command center or inside the main entrance. High-rise buildings can also have fail-safe locks, but require a 2-way communication system in the stair.
I have had 2 situations recently where a stair served more than 4 stories but it was not a high-rise building. I can't see any reason why a 5-story stair would not be allowed to have fail-safe locks, so the question is whether the communication system is required.
Would you require the communication system in a 5-story stair that is not in a high-rise building (for example, if there was a level below the exit discharge)? Why/why not?
If only some of the doors had fail-safe locks (for example, floors 2-4 but not 1 or 5), would that impact your answer?
Here are the sections from the 2009 IBC for reference:
1008.1.9.10Stairwaydoors. Interior stairway means of egress doors shall be openable from both sides without the use of a key or special knowledge or effort.
Exceptions:
1. Stairway discharge doors shall be openable from the egress side and shall only be locked from the opposite side.
2. This section shall not apply to doors arranged in accordance with Section 403.5.3.
3. In stairways serving not more than four stories, doors are permitted to be locked from the side opposite the egress side, provided they are openable from the egress side and capable of being unlocked simultaneously without unlatching upon a signal from the fire command center, if present, or a signal by emergency personnel from a single location inside the main entrance to the building.
403.5.3 Stairway door operation. Stairway doors other than the exit discharge doors shall be permitted to be locked from the stairway side. Stairway doors that are locked from the stairway side shall be capable of being unlocked simultaneously without unlatching upon a signal from the fire command center.
403.5.3.1 Stairway communication system. A telephone or other two-way communications system connected to an approved constantly attended station shall be provided at not less than every fifth floor in each stairway where the doors to the stairway are locked.
4-story stairs can have fail-safe electrified locks that lock on the stair side, as long as they can be remotely unlocked by a switch at the fire command center or inside the main entrance. High-rise buildings can also have fail-safe locks, but require a 2-way communication system in the stair.
I have had 2 situations recently where a stair served more than 4 stories but it was not a high-rise building. I can't see any reason why a 5-story stair would not be allowed to have fail-safe locks, so the question is whether the communication system is required.
Would you require the communication system in a 5-story stair that is not in a high-rise building (for example, if there was a level below the exit discharge)? Why/why not?
If only some of the doors had fail-safe locks (for example, floors 2-4 but not 1 or 5), would that impact your answer?
Here are the sections from the 2009 IBC for reference:
1008.1.9.10Stairwaydoors. Interior stairway means of egress doors shall be openable from both sides without the use of a key or special knowledge or effort.
Exceptions:
1. Stairway discharge doors shall be openable from the egress side and shall only be locked from the opposite side.
2. This section shall not apply to doors arranged in accordance with Section 403.5.3.
3. In stairways serving not more than four stories, doors are permitted to be locked from the side opposite the egress side, provided they are openable from the egress side and capable of being unlocked simultaneously without unlatching upon a signal from the fire command center, if present, or a signal by emergency personnel from a single location inside the main entrance to the building.
403.5.3 Stairway door operation. Stairway doors other than the exit discharge doors shall be permitted to be locked from the stairway side. Stairway doors that are locked from the stairway side shall be capable of being unlocked simultaneously without unlatching upon a signal from the fire command center.
403.5.3.1 Stairway communication system. A telephone or other two-way communications system connected to an approved constantly attended station shall be provided at not less than every fifth floor in each stairway where the doors to the stairway are locked.