Tenant finish question?

[SCBO1]

I have a tenant finish with two furnaces and they want to split it into two units but the furnaces will remain in the original unit.

Q. Can the new unit be supplied by the furnace from the original unit if a fire/smoke damper is installed at the seperation wall?

 

[vegas paul]

Re: Tenant finish question?

Is the separation wall required to be rated (fire barrier)? Or is it merely a demising wall between non-separated uses within a building?

 

[SCBO1]

Re: Tenant finish question?

Demising wall between two units. If the unit was to go back to the original size space the walls could be removed. The original space has seperation walls on both sides. Take a rectangle and make the first unit L-shaped and leave the furnace in the the first unit. Second unit wants to use the original furnace system. Does that make sence?

 

[fatboy]

Re: Tenant finish question?

If occupancies don't need to be separated, your using non-rated walls, and supply and return air for each space is separated, should be good.

 

[D a v e W]

Re: Tenant finish question?

I agree with FB

 

[peach]

Re: Tenant finish question?

me too

 

[Daddy-0-]

Re: Tenant finish question?

Doesn't the secondary unit have to have access to the furnace for maintenance etc? What if the first tenant moves out? I am not a commercial guy so I may be way off base here.

 

[kilitact]

Re: Tenant finish question?

Daddy-O wrote;

Doesn't the secondary unit have to have access to the furnace for maintenance etc? What if the first tenant moves out? I am not a commercial guy so I may be way off base here.

Daddy-O, your right on target

 

[fatboy]

Re: Tenant finish question?

That's a matter of convenience, not a code requirement.

 

[kilitact]

Re: Tenant finish question?

Sec. 306.1 shall be accessible, Sec.304.12 shall be permanently marked. matter of convenience? its code.

 

[fatboy]

Re: Tenant finish question?

Kil, the section you posted really only backs up MY position (2006 IMC):

304.11 Area served. Appliances serving different areas of a

building other than where they are installed shall be permanently

marked in an approved manner that uniquely identifies

the appliance and the area it serves.

It is accessable, might not be easy to access, but it's still accessable, one way or another. No different than the buildings water supply. Do alll tenants in a strip mall have access to the water supply valve? It's accessable, to someone, somehow, sometime.

EDIT: I apologize for anyone that read my most recent reply, I came off a tad bit of an ass....sorry.

 

[kilitact]

Re: Tenant finish question?

fatboy wrote;

Kil, the section you posted really only backs up MY position (2006 IMC):

That can be a good thing :!:

fatboy wrote;

I came off a tad bit of an ass

You think :roll:

 

[texasbo]

Re: Tenant finish question?

Fatboy said:

304.11 Area served. Appliances serving different areas of abuilding other than where they are installed shall be permanently

marked in an approved manner that uniquely identifies

the appliance and the area it serves.

It is accessable, might not be easy to access, but it's still accessable, one way or another. No different than the buildings water supply. Do alll tenants in a strip mall have access to the water supply valve? It's accessable, to someone, somehow, sometime.

This is correct. While it may be bad design and a terrible idea, it is legal, and 304.11 specifically permits it.

 

[fatboy]

Re: Tenant finish question?

You really ought to step up to the plate and have a slice of humble pie every now and then Kil......it's good for a person.

 

[kilitact]

Re: Tenant finish question?

fatboy wrote;

You really ought to step up to the plate and have a slice of humble pie every now and then Kil......it's good for a person.

Thank you, I hope you will follow your advice.